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I thought it had been renamed the Puddle to save Q Vic's blushes what with those nasty upstart ag labs stirring up mischief all that time ago.

Really not sure . Google says the river piddle .

Mind you . If it got its name changed from Puddle to Puddle , that would make sense , in a Finbar Saunders kind of way ......

Mrs jasper who is a Dorset girl says Toll puddle and puddle town were changed .

Least said about ****terton the better ......
 
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Mods - Did a decision get made on an election thread?

It's bubbling away.
Well we talked about it and were fairly sure that Koeman's was the place for it, rather than a separate thread. Normal forum rules on personal abuse apply, but politicise away to your hearts' content guys.

Interestingly, the Villa Ticket thread seems to have become a home for reconciliation of all shades of political belief. Maybe there is hope for the world!
 
I thought it had been renamed the Puddle to save Q Vic's blushes what with those nasty upstart ag labs stirring up mischief all that time ago.
It's the River Piddle or Trent, so they hedged their bets with Piddletrenthide. Tolpuddle appears to have been invented to distract Queen Victoria. Imagine if those guys had been called the Tolpiddle Martyrs, she'd have had nightmares!
 
This is why we CANNOT have a majority Conservative Government,,,,The number of people relying on charity handouts from food banks will escalate and we will see families being cut adrift from the rest of society and become an "underclass". Yes, there are a small percentage that abuse the benefit system, but the vast majority claim because they have no other choice.
To penalise carers and the disabled is callous and shouldn't happen in a modern, civilized country.

Whose surprised though really? The Conservatives do this every time they get into government. If you don't want that, don't vote for them. I certainly won't be or will never be.
 
The Conservatives are considering options for scrapping several benefits, the BBC has learned.

An investigation by BBC News has uncovered several of the benefits under consideration for change:

  • Industrial Injuries Compensation Scheme - could be replaced by companies providing industrial injury insurance policy for employees. Any that did not would become members of a default national industrial injuries scheme, similar to the programme for asbestos sufferers. DWP predicted saving - £1bn
  • Carer's Allowance - this could be restricted to those eligible for Universal Credit. Leaked documents suggest about 40% of claimants would lose out. DWP predicted saving - £1bn
  • The contributory element of Employment and Support Allowance and Job Seekers Allowance - currently claimants who have paid enough National Insurance contributions can get the benefits with little means testing; DWP analysis suggests 30% of claimants, over 300,000 families, would lose about £80 per week. DWP predicted saving - £1.3bn in 2018/19
  • Disability benefits - Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independence Payments and Attendance Allowance (for over 65s who have personal care needs) would no longer be paid tax free. Possible saving - £1.5bn per annum (based on IFS Green Budget calculation )
  • Council Tax Support - to be incorporated into Universal Credit. Possible saving - not known
  • Child Benefit - Limiting the benefit to the first two children. Possible saving IFS estimates £1bn saving per annum in the long run but little initially
  • Regional Benefit Caps - The £23,000 limit would vary in different parts of the country, with for instance Londoners receiving the top amount due to the higher cost of living.Possible saving - not known and dependent on where levels were set.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32084722

Wow.
 
As it says: under consideration. You have to have facts before making decisions. We'd all like everyone to have everything, but the welfare state has got too cumbersome and expensive. Does anyone really think that the socialists can magic the money from somewhere to pay for it to continue. I don't want the disabled or elderly to lose money, but throwing benefits at healthy people over the last few decades has caused this problem....and resulted in us being invaded by the poor and desperate from other countries. Not working because you would be out of pocket should never have been an option. I would also be interested in who leaked this document...their agenda is obvious.
 
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An alternative view to the election posts so far.

Well, look at me! I vote Tory because I'm a heartless bastard. I'm clearly a toff looking out for myself and my establishment chums. I don't vote Tory because I believe the future for everyone would be better without the economics of the madhouse. No, I do it to make poor people poorer. All Tories are like that, you know. The only reason Tories support businesses is because they are corrupt, not because businesses in the end pay for every single social service offered in this country.

I hate everyone poorer than me, that's why I vote Tory. Anyone who has a single caring cell votes Labour. Don't worry about the cost, just spend as much as you can to make everything better.

You see, the left hand side of this graph could have gone on forever: the pot of cash is bottomless.

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VOTE TORY!

Ref politics. Pack it in. No-one is going to change their mind so just leave it out. All you're all doing is shouting "look at me, I vote XXX".

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It's the River Piddle or Trent, so they hedged their bets with Piddletrenthide. Tolpuddle appears to have been invented to distract Queen Victoria. Imagine if those guys had been called the Tolpiddle Martyrs, she'd have had nightmares!

Bill Bryson did make the point that the West Country is the place in general for place names thought up after a little too much scrumpy. However, we have to go to Essex to reach rock bottom with Shellow Bowells:

http://goo.gl/maps/X2KNT

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Stephen Fry used to name sketch characters using place names in Norfolk. I imaging Nempnett Thrubwell would have made an excellent character. I suspect he collects stamps, goes plane spotting and wears a pale blue/grey anorak.

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As it says: under consideration. You have to have facts before making decisions. We'd all like everyone to have everything, but the welfare state has got too cumbersome and expensive. Does anyone really think that the socialists can magic the money from somewhere to pay for it to continue. I don't want the disabled or elderly to lose money, but throwing benefits at healthy people over the last few decades has caused this problem....and resulted in us being invaded by the poor and desperate from other countries. Not working because you would be out of pocket should never have been an option. I would also be interested in who leaked this document...their agenda is obvious.
I get that Fran I also get that Labour aren't any better. Yes I know too much has been spent and we need to get out of the black hole. But why does it seem the poor are always hit hardest? Why can't the rich (people and businesses) get taxed more and loop holes shut down, while benefits get sorted out at the same time? I agree we can't go too far as some businesses will pull out. But it does seem that it is always the poorest (the easiest) is hit harder. ( I am not going on about who to vote for I am talking in general).
 
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  • Child Benefit - Limiting the benefit to the first two children. Possible saving IFS estimates £1bn saving per annum in the long run but little initially
Tbf, I totally agree with that one. People shouldn't just get money for having children. Can't afford a child? Don't bloody have one then. A condom is cheaper than raising a kid.

My issue is that it shouldn't be applied retrospectively, at least not straight away as then some people may end up being screwed. Certainly for new claimants and maybe over time reduce the number of children child benefit is paid for, e.g. 4 children max, then reduce it to 3 after a year, then 2 after another year.
 
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