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Taylor hanging in there for a pay rise

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by swanseaandproud, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    No!!!
     
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  2. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Taylor dodgy for most of the season
    Taylor's contract talks falter (didn't this happen before?)
    Taylor has 3 - 4 very good halves and hasn't stood out as being poor for over a month
    Taylor appears to be asking for a big pay rise
    Taylor is attracting interest from elsewhere

    Is this another ploy to get his own way? He has form - including stories about him not being happy playing second string to Ben Davies & making noises about leaving before his injury and again there was speculation in January.

    Should have bought a decent left back as soon as Davies was sold (not sold Davies would have been a better move IMO).
    Is full back a problem? Tiandelli gone, Jazz gone, Rangel dumped - all of whom I would prefer to see inn the team than Neil Taylor. That leaves us with very short of cover.
     
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  3. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    The bi annual piss hunt has started , the guy is not as good as he thinks he is and that was always the danger with us not bringing in a direct replacement for him , he probably believes he's got no competition for his position
     
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  4. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Is any player worth about £2m a year? Nope not in my opinion, would I in his position would try and get this amount ? Damned right I would! I would look at that I have a limited playing career and I want to get as much as I can out of it.

    Some are saying he's an ordinary player, that maybe so, but would we be saying the same if it was some hot shot player? For example would be saying this for Bony if he was still with us? The fact is the players are at the top of the game, and we are turning over £100m a year, that is soon to increase by 20%-30% with the new deal , so of course players will be asking for a share of that
     
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  5. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    I say make him 1 offer if he refuses let him go and bring in better, that wouldn't be to difficult. He is more than replaceable at LB and is no more than average at this level. I do worry though that he is one of GM mates and will get what he wants.
     
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  6. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    The one thing in his favour is that he is naturally left footed , there's not too many of those about . the thing that gets my goat is regardless of where we are in the season it's always his name that comes up about a move away , is he better than Ben Davies , debateable but just look how his season's panned out for him .
     
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  7. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    The name of the player is irrelevant. What is more concerning is the money we have to pay in wages has gone through the roof that puts the club that has been run so well into a club that should we get relegated would put the club in jeopardy of having a massive wage bill in the lower leagues. Having been so prudent in staying within our means and paying in accordance of our wage policy we still got success and we now find the players have turned the table around and are demanding obscene amounts of wages to stay........The pressure to stay in the premiership now has increased.....
     
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  8. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    But their contracts state that if we are relegated the wages will be cut
     
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  9. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Where did you see that?..........No player would take a massive pay cut but their bonuses for winning and drawing would be the only thing clubs are able to cut.....Its very rare that a player would agree in his contract that he will take a pay cut in the event of relegation.....
     
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  10. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    They would if the contract they so willingly signed says so
     
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  11. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    They would not sign such a contract...........nobody would its a myth....
     
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  12. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Rubbish Dai, it's on every contract with our players, the club is more savvy than what happened to Leeds
     
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  13. ProjectVRD

    ProjectVRD Well-Known Member

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    Relegation Salary Cuts are common place in the Premier League, and in the very near future it may become mandatory for all players.

    QPR revealed 60% of its players had the clause, Aston Villa have all of the players into the clause, Kevin Phillips revealed Sunderland had this in place years ago.

    Last year the FA met with club chairmen and they started discussions to amend the "Standard Player Contracts", every player in the English league must sign it and it overrides anything in their contract with their club. The agents for players are very well aware of this type of model of contract as it is place in nearly every major European league. In Germany all players are subject to salary cuts upon relegation and this is what the FA is looking to introduce, but it won't suddenly spark a nightmare for players already in the English leagues... Italy, France and Spain are also looking into copying Germany's lead of total salary cut enforcement.

    The Standard Contracts outline this action could happen in the future, the players contract with the club will say any club level exemption will be overrided by any Standard Contract changes. If the English FA (or any FA in Europe for that matter) don't see the two in tow then the player will not be registered to play.
     
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  14. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    I remember Huw saying that all our players are on such a contract, and if we are relegated I think players would have clauses to leave the club should the buying club meet certain conditions like valuations and so on.
     
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  15. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    Club's would be insane not to have wage reduction clauses in contracts were relegation to occur.
     
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  16. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    Yep that would describe Pompey when they went down
     
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  17. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Did you know they were paying Sol Cambell 90k a week!!!
     
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  18. Jager

    Jager Well-Known Member

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    I didn't know that, but there is no surprise considering the utter disaster around them
     
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  19. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    They were paying silly money, no wonder they went into meltdown.
     
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  20. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure .
    "We are all out to remain part of the Premier League but there has to be a realism and you have to watch that you don't do it at all costs," said Jenkins.
    "We try to run our football club so that there is no pressure on anybody and will do our best to strengthen in January and give Michael (Laudrup) and the squad a chance to push on.
    "But it's all done within a level that we can afford; we won't take financial risks to keep the club in the Premier League.
    "We have a system at our club where players get a pay cut if we get relegated and I think that acts as a fantastic motivational tool; if someone knows they are going to get a 30-40 per cent pay cut, you'd think they may try harder to stay up!
    "I think that should be introduced into every player's contract in the Premier League."
     
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