Off Topic mafia 5: game thread

Aye life takes priority obviously, but on the other hand he did the exact same thing in the last game

 

Lol how was i bad. I killed astro and the serial killer. Obi wan was my next kill was he mafia?

 

Who died?

 

Also cheers mito. My first mafia but it was a lot of fun. I felt the game was imbalanced but its hardto gauge until you play it. Going up against two mafias who can recruit or kill at the same time and usually targeting townies was too hard. I guess i havent taken into account the townie hitmem

 

Didn't say you were bad, was gonna edit in that you actually did a great job in your role probably one of the best players and I said as much as the game was going, but your defence when you were accused in the paper and instantly jumping on IBWT made you look super guilty.

 

if i did a single team with 18 player sit would have been 4 mafia.


anyway.. the premises were:

1. it seems to me people wanted more complicated games

2. People liked dual mafia from last time

3. The oeny was suggested on end of last game and on start up for this

4. Serial killer was first time. role blockers were first time. money was nothing i could find on any mafia i read up on.

5. The premise was a semi open game. like last time i though peoepl liked not knowing the full story.

 

No

 

What on earth was going on with you and Trev though? Neither of you would post for hours and then both post the same action within a minute or so.

 

I didn't think the balance was in favour of the mafia. If you were a mafia you were on a team of 3 against 15 other people and you could only recruit or kill every 2-3 nights

Considering the town had a team of 2 cops including a known innocent, a team of 2-3 masons, a journalist, a vigilante, plus witnesses they were strong IMO

 

More complicated games are good.
I think you did a good job.
haven hidden rules is awesome.
My only negative was too many deaths could occur at once.

 

this...kinda.
Thought it was evenly balanced. Just too many people dropping too quickly

 

It's pretty simple...if you'd all put more classifieds in town would have had a hit tonight and taken out Italian Don

 

Disagree. We had a team of 1 cop and the other was MAgic who didn't turn up and then RHC...

Team of 2 masons, but we couldn't do anything other than talk to each other... it's first time I've been a mason and I must admit I don't see how it's really ay benefit. Only way it's of benefit is if you mange to recruit someone with a town role right away (like Journo or Vigilante) but chances of doing that are so slim and once someone becomes recruited it becomes pointless because you can't trust them anyway.

Plus you had 2 prossies blocking (one from each side) so once they've worked out who the journalist is (which seemed to have happened) they just block him each night and we lose all our main source of info.

 

Valley is the Italian Don btw... everyone vote for him

 

@Swarbs...

You wasn't the only ones that lost out to MITOs "mistake night". I should have acted before the vigilante. I would have killed Biscan. This would have been my third kill giving my some armour. The vigilante wouldn't have killed me with that first bullet then.

Killing me cost the town the game. You needed my assistance and I needed to target Mafia at that point too. I'd already told MITO I was targeting the hitman next once if gained my body armour. Wouldn't have been hard for the town to out number me later but it was impossible for me to put food the Mafia in the later stages.

I know I killed AFC but I had no choice at that point, the town were getting two powerful with three known innocent. Killing AFC removed two of them since he hasn't announced who the other one was.

 

So pleased the game is over. The night I wa killed I was feeling confident I only needed two more days to help the town to a victory and gerrez stepped in to **** that right up!

Magic and RHC made it very hard for the cops in this game. Magic didn't post once and I had to waste a day trying to save him from the lynch and as soon as RHC become my sidekick he voted for IBWT (who we had investigated and knew was innocent) and refused to defend himself. The only thing he did to defend himself was make up some rubbish about passing on his power which convinced everyone he was guilty. Mikey almost figured it out and I was desperate for RHC to make more effort to convince others of his innocence as the pile on meant town found out nothing. Messaged him all day with no response trying to give him ideas. I had even left a death note for him to post to the town to convince of his innocence but he ignored it and wouldn't post it.

Last time I was in a team I spent the whole time convincing others not to lynch an inactive team member as well... So frustrating...

Big thanks for the game though, police chief was a great role, good abilities and I liked the money aspect.

 

If you look the decision the town took at times were what imbalanced it... from my side i do not think the mafia had it easy.

1. valley was never ever even put under pressure once... why? he skirted by constantly. no town person ever question him

2. Billy had a 100% hit record on investigations and got blocked twices so out of he found 3 mafia! his choce of communication is understandable. I find with all the tricks and smoke and mirrors people need a slap in the chops to realise what you are saying

3. After nozzer died the town stopped thinking... you guys did. Bobby held his kills and got results but the town stopped working to dig out mafia and went for two day son an unending queit perdiod where you should have realised each time hey... this isn;t right nobody cares this person will die. you had lots and lots of players over an above each individaul mafia team to win this.

4. the cop could kill he had 25k to hire the hit. you all agreed to recruit to have investigator... sorry but the perosn selected was not able to play. this kill never happened. I wants NOBODY to knwo wh odid each kill.. only the team selecting it would know.

5. the witness was the only imbalance in my view and it tipped the thing to the town as it was too active. I made it up as a role in terms of powers. the person coudl see too small a pool of actions so did see stuff. night one it was mikey.. it had big imact. thereafter actually one night one mafia did rhc who was witness and he was blocked...

6. the journo could have a hit too if you all sent in classifieds. you had the info he was getting money for it.. think about it... a town role was ccumulating money.. oce i stopped pushing then they did off... The journo's stellar hit rate made him enough for a hit if the game was still running... 10 classifieds a day x 500 = 5000 per day... he got nowhere near that... he was making moeny off articles too....


in short the mafia had powers and used them the town had powers and did not.... some luck existed in the game too.

And then last night i really ****ed up and its written down how in observations. I didn't keep consistency i nwhat i did for russians in particular. They are the team that suffered. I did a coin flip between serial killer and vigilante when actually i should have let gerrez kill biscan last night then have him have a bullet poorf vest (his secret)

that really affected the last day but in reality i i stop apologizing... the game was pretty much in the italians hands. The journo knew swarbs was guilty form day 2 but didn't cotton on right... IBWT should have died and as such we should have seen a different vote today but swarbs should have had a big fight on his hands as if you read the italian baord they knew who was how by making notes the prior day!

anyway thats just that..... I reckon if we tidied up these rules and added robustness to what i learned from run 1 you'd fine on a couple more runs that the town could win and the others coudl win... the serial killer had hardest job but i has said if he got recruited to mafia he could have hid out a while and won too.

 

Oh, and if the Mafia had recruited me my role would have been awesome

 

The game wasn't balanced towards mafia. If gerrez didn't try and kill me I feel town would of been in with a very good chance of winning.

 

@mito - I did pick valley to be up for the lynch (with RHC and goonercym) and in our private forum tell RHC to go for him