1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Skrtel charged with violent conduct

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by FedLadSonOfAnfield, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,301
    Likes Received:
    1,658
    People point to Rafa's rant because we drew the next 3 games after it. But what they don't like to mention when creating the perfect delusory storm is that in the pre rant christmas period we actually drew 4 games out of 5. So, if we drew 4 games just before the rant and 3 games after the rant, the rant improved our form <laugh>

    Ah stats, you can create any fiction you like with them
     
    #301
  2. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    22,335
    Likes Received:
    11,955
    Which is exactly what I've been saying. Stoke actually only lost 4 home games that season so a draw there wasn't a bad result, and a very late penalty to Wigan was unfortunate to give them the draw but signs of a meltdown <laugh> and <laugh> again.

    The gullible will believe every rumour and jump on every bandwagon <ok>
     
    #302
  3. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,301
    Likes Received:
    1,658

    True that. The bottom line is our November\Decenber results really put pressure on us. Of course the brainless folk of this world will try to say the pressure started Jan 9th.
     
    #303
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  4. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    34,977
    Likes Received:
    9,296
    <ok>

    Fergie was undisputed king of ranting in his day, not all of those rants brought a positive effect towards man utd yet non were blamed for his team losing games following him making them, its a mystical effect that apparently only happened only once, those theorist's that believe in it are funny as ****.
     
    #304
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  5. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,301
    Likes Received:
    1,658

    Lets not forget, Rafa's calmest rant ever contained nothing but truth about Ferguson. But it was not PC to come out and say it like Rafa did.
     
    #305
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  6. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    34,977
    Likes Received:
    9,296
    Of course it did, but utd fans and evertonians loved fergie and loathe LFC so there's no way they'd admit there was a lot of truth in Rafa's words.
     
    #306

  7. Stan

    Stan Stalker

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    36,100
    Likes Received:
    23,462
    The rant was a bad idea, there's no doubt about that. It showed the world, including the Liverpool players, that the manager was feeling the pressure. It's no coincidence that the team went on to draw the next three games.
     
    #307
    Tobes The Grinch likes this.
  8. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,301
    Likes Received:
    1,658

    You obviously didn't follow things, we drew 4 of 5 games end of Nov and Dec. So how did the Jan 9 "rant" cause those draws?

    Another idiot<laugh>
    #anotherskyfan
     
    #308
  9. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    34,977
    Likes Received:
    9,296
    Key word and the fackt that dispels the outlandish theory.
     
    #309
  10. Stan

    Stan Stalker

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    36,100
    Likes Received:
    23,462
    The rant can't have cause those draws as he hadn't had his meltdown by then. I would have thought that was obvious to anyone. Do you struggle with the concepts of past, present and future?
     
    #310
  11. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    22,335
    Likes Received:
    11,955
    <laugh>
    Feeling the pressure is an everyday occurrence for any manager, any time, and with H&G to contend with it's safe to say Rafa was feeling pressure most of the time - why pick 3 games to point to it. Why not the 4 draws from 5 games a month previous? Was he not feeling pressure then but was after the so called rant?
     
    #311
  12. Stan

    Stan Stalker

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2014
    Messages:
    36,100
    Likes Received:
    23,462
    Because those four games weren't preceded by one of the oddest manager press conferences in the history of the game.

    The meltdown was preceded by three good results. That form seemed to go out of the window for three games after the meltdown.

    Let's look at the fakhts by constructing a meltdown sandwich.

    Arsenal 1 - Liverpool 1
    Liverpool 3 - Bolton 0
    Newcastle 1 - Liverpool 5
    MELTDOWN
    Stoke 0 - Liverpool 0
    Liverpool 1 - Everton 1
    Wigan 1 - Liverpool 1
     
    #312
  13. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    22,335
    Likes Received:
    11,955
    Form had nothing to do with it after the rant. Were you at any of those games? Results don't always mirror form and they didn't here <ok>
     
    #313
  14. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    34,977
    Likes Received:
    9,296
    One was a derby game in which form and league standings mean nothing and another was away to Stoke who won 10 and drew 5 of their 19 home games, Wigan only lost 6 home games, the theory is bollocks.
     
    #314
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  15. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2011
    Messages:
    22,335
    Likes Received:
    11,955
    And Giggs win poty after Rafa's rant as well ..... coincidence <laugh>
     
    #315
  16. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,301
    Likes Received:
    1,658
    #316
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    34,977
    Likes Received:
    9,296


    It was this this that caused those pesky draws.<grr>
     
    #317
    johnsonsbaby likes this.
  18. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2014
    Messages:
    10,991
    Likes Received:
    4,709
    Rafa's rant led to the UN Security Council passing a resolution urging an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in Gaza? I know it didn't change much, but still, good going Rafa!
     
    #318
  19. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2012
    Messages:
    72,661
    Likes Received:
    57,082
    As you've just proved...............................as you won the 2 games directly prior to his rant and were top of the table.
     
    #319
  20. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2013
    Messages:
    22,301
    Likes Received:
    1,658
    Yes that was intentional in case you hadn't noticed.. but the form guide blows the rant argument out of water mate. If there was added pressure on the team it was because we blew 8 points out the window in over 5 games by end of december, grabbing 6 of those would have left us with the title.<doh>

    The rant and 3 draws.. merely circumstancial, our form, which is a much more reliable measure than a press conference says we were inconsistent all through that period 8 points prior to the "rant" and 6 thereafter, only a clown would put it down to the rant. Let alone the fact that we actually had more draws than I've listed, I really coud have gone to town on the stupidity of blaming Rafa's rant<ok>

    But let me boil it down for the simpletons. Liverpool in late Nov and Dec drop 8 points, Liverpool drop another 6 in Jan.
    Up till Jan 8th 09 it was "Rafa is to tactically rigid and drawing games because of it" and after Jan 8th 09 it was "Rafa's rant is causing the draws"

    Give me a break Tobes :D
     
    #320
    johnsonsbaby likes this.

Share This Page