Sorry is this the M27 crash? I haven't heard anything about it as I don't live in the area. I absolutely agree there should be better marshalling in situations like that but they really are thinly stretched these days. Where I live there is one PC and a couple of PCSO's covering about 100 square miles. You can literally go 2 or 3 weeks without seeing a uniform copper in my village.
I hope they never come in...I'd rather put up with the rare incident of a pilot going postal than have a computer controlled plane being hacked by a geeky, antisocial kid in Surbiton.
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It is expected that all PL clubs will pay the living wage to all staff...that will be a shock to the players
£6.70 per hour from October 1st, that's over a tenner for a game! They will think Christmas has come early.
Living wage is £7.85ph at the moment. £6.70 is minimum wage. Surely we can't afford to pay the players that much!
And when you do see a police person in a car , they are usually on their own . This is stupid as well , as usually they then need to call for back up !!! To easy to blame the police these days , though I sympathise with anyone stuck in that yesterday .
Beefy, I generally avoid responding to your posts... I suspect the police were somewhat tied up dealing with a multiple vehicle crash involving six injuries (some serious) and a fatality (nice euphemism - the dead body of someone killed in a violent way, someone whose body they have to see and deal with, then tell their family). All that along with a fire that removed the surface from the road. They also had to corral the traffic in six miles of solid queue. They eventually had to turn round several miles of traffic and run it the wrong way down the motorway. All that might have taken a copper's time to manage perhaps. Or more than one maybe. They'll have been dealing with half a dozen different agencies (fire, resurfacing, highways information) and contractors. They also had to organise and run miles of diversion. I bet they were run off their feet. And in the midst of all that you want them to hand out water? Why? Whatever happened to setting off prepared for your journey? Why is it the police's job to nanny people? Were they meant to be blocking access while they carried water to cars? Seriously? And occasionally, just occasionally, it might be worth thinking whether what you're about to post is proportionate before posting. I bet you any money that the policeman who told a family they had lost a loved one (the important part of yesterday's havoc) didn't see the funny side. Vin
A lot of those people replying should be sterilised. Indeed. There hasn't been a crime there since Mrs Miggins tried to use her bus pass at 8:30 in 1997.
My thoughts entirely when i read that critical post. Handing out water FFS - the police had plenty to do and that job is not their responsibility.
Sorry Beefy but I'm with Vin. The police has far more important problems to deal with. If it was the middle of summer, with temperatures over 25 then maybe no water would have been a problem.
If the police were so stretched why not bring in other units? If they couldn't why not ask for help from another service to help? What if some one had got injured or worse by the idiots doing them things? Wouldn't you partly blame the police as well? I know I would. As for saying think about things before I post I did, my dad was involved with the after effects and he said it was crazy, hr nearly got hit himself. I agree the police did well dealing with the crash, but they didn't handle the after effects that well. As for your last paragraph I doubt the police would find it a joke, if a person died from stopping idiots doing dangerous stuff. The dealing with the after effects of a fatal crash (RIP) is nearly as important as the crash itself. It is also fair to criticise and to praise the police force at the same time.
I was more on about the police saying how they handed out water on TV. They did at first but stopped. It isn't mainly about water not being handed out anyways. If the police were so stretched why wasn't the army or some other force bought into help them? People were speeding across grass and going over roundabouts. What if someone hd got killed because of these idiots? As I said to Vin, the police did well at the crash site. But they needed to either help with the after effect far better or they needed help themselves to sort it.
It's not mainly about water read my post. Their responsibility is to insure during and after people are safe. The first part they did well the second they didn't or couldn't insure. If they couldn't, they either needed extra police or if they had none they needed help from another force.
If someone in that situation got hurt because someone else was driving like a **** I'd blame whoever was driving like a ****, not the police.
Just to say I am not slamming the police that dealt with accident or that had to tell someone a loved one had died. My Southampton police is a joke was aimed at 1) There are not being enough to do everything they need to do. 2) The handling of the effects of the crash. You could say that 1 gives you a reason why 2 doesn't always happen. But I am sure the higher ups could use their brain to draft in additional help.
Yes I would mainly blame the twat that was driving. But then I would also think who should be stopping them? No one.
