That's how ****ing desperate you are You have absolutely ****all, you were wrong and I was right, yet you pick up on something I posted late last night pished?
Nah I have 2 servers to rebuild and I need to format my puter, got better things to do than argue with him. 'Because I think he deserves to get shot it's fine and you're wrong' = Dev's argument Then he wonders why his fugly wife encourages him to sit in the attic talking about Rangers and making puns all day...
Once I get back from the dentist, I need to roll some smokes and watch Minder. And then I can relax for the rest of the day.
Correction, you were pished and WRONG, so were you pished this morning when you typed this? Why did that stand out? What does that have to do with anything?
To be fair I put that in Bold. I think what Toby's trying to say is that Duggan was not really a criminal. I'm sure he'll correct me if i'm wrong.
No, I'm saying that he didn't deserve to get shot. If you say he does deserve to be shot, then so do you, because you're a criminal too. Also: Seems like he was definitely a threat then And: So he shot his colleague in the radio too then? Seems legit...
He paid the price for his actions. Whether he "Deserved" to be killed is neither here nor there as I don't recall using that word, I said I have no sympathy for him whatsoever, plenty of people share my feelings, its hardly unique. I'm a Criminal, how does that work? Because I smoke weed? He never got shot because he was a weed smoker, he got shot for carrying a gun, the only time i've carried a gun was when I was issued one as part of my duties. The rest of your points have already been covered many times over but I'm happy to discuss them again in detail if you want. 14ft is the length of my Kitchen, no distance at all, the IPCC report clearly states "the most plausible explanation was that Mr Duggan was in the process of throwing the weapon away when a police officer fired two shots at him." So he had a Gun, he got shot in the act of throwing it away. Its clear he had a gun in his hand at some stage, unluckily for him the officer who shot him saw what he thought was a weapon, and opened fire. The Police Officer percieved a threat and reacted as he was entitled according to the Rules of Engagement. Yes, that's been established its on Page 107 on the report :https://www.ipcc.gov.uk/sites/defau...investigation-report-fatal-shooting-of-MD.pdf Its legitimate as far as I'm concerned. They typed up their statements together as they apparently all witnessed the same thing. If they colluded and lied on their statements then that's another matter entirely, but there's no way of knowing if or how much they lied. You can't infer something dodgy just because some of them spoke to each other when writing their statement. You'd want to get your story straight and make sure you don't contradict each other or you could end up loooking a bit foolish. Makes complete sense to me
He got what he deserved and that is that. Time to move on to other criminals and let the impartial Police decide.
A criminal is a criminal. It may be illegal to carry a firearm without a licence, but it's also illegal to shoot someone that isn't a threat. The gun was in a sock ffs and they shot him 4 seconds after he got out the car. He threw the gun far away enough to prove it's not a threat. Smoking weed = you're a criminal Duggan = a criminal You both deserve to get shot according to your logic The IPCC also claimed the police were fired at initially, which was bullshit. They got together to make sure their bullshit story fits, fine, but he was still unlawfully killed. Your argument is non-existent, so give up Oh wait, you won't, you'll just keep on posting to have the last word to make your pathetic life feel that little bit less empty.
No, I'm more than happy for your words to end this thread, you've encapsulated the whole thing beautifully. Straightforward Black and White, no shades of grey. Its really quite staggering.
Finally, you've realised you can't weasel your way out of this one. You've been trying for 20 pages... It's very brave of you.
This thread was started over a year ago and I've been trying for 20 pages to weasel my way out of it? Aye, good one.
