If you're gonna unnecessarily reinter a 500 year old stiff then keep an eye on the anachronisms ffs. Either knights and tented villages or hearses and motorcycle outriders. Not both. His poor restless spirit must be as confused as ****. RIP Good King Dick. May he never lose his horse in The Wash again.
I personally thought the Queens guard should have escorted him the whole way. Thought it would have been more fitting for a dead monarch to be escorted by the royal guard of the day. I also think the Queen and princes should definitely have made an appearance, whether at the cortege procession or the reinterment ceremony on Thursday. Ridiculous that they aren't. At least Richards successor, the duke of Gloucester bothered to turn up.
The trolley they've stick him on( second photo down) looks like it's been knocked up by a load of street urchins off North Hull. Using pram wheels. The guard of honour look like cadets and the state of the beret of the young lass at the front is a disgrace. Princess Di got Welsh Guards, Dick's been lumbered with 32 Sqn, Leicestershire Cadet Force. If he was alive he'd be ****ing livid, someone is clearly taking the rise. Poor Dickie. In fact that might not be a lass, in which case the scruffy sod needs a haircut.
People queuing up for over 4 hours to file past a wooden box with some 600 old bones in it ffs. Brits are mental, we love a good queue.
"At one stage cathedral officials asked people to stop joining the line but lifted this shortly after." Don't try to stop us Brits queuing for hours on end, pointlessly, with no facilities, as is our right. Kings died in battle for less. It's little wonder there wasn't a riot.
It suits the British mawkishness as well. We love a good bit of sombre mourning for people we've never met, even when they lived 600 years ago
It's a gun cart, the same as they used back in Dicks days to lug their cannons about on. Agree about the rest.
It's ****. He should have been balanced precariously on the turret of a Challenger 2 main battle tank as it sped along at full pelt. Squashing to pulp half witted buffoons who tried to throw flowers on the coffin. That would have been more befitting.
He was one of the greatest kings to rule over England. The Tudor propaganda painted him a tyrant, but he was nothing of the sort. His legal reforms and policies greatly improved the lives of ordinary Englishmen. He died bravely whilst leading his troops against a usurper. If he lived to a ripe old age, he could have done so much more. A classic 'what if?' moment in history.
None in desford. The two with the Knights on horseback are on Fenn Lane, one just outside the farm and one just before the canal bridge at Sutton Cheney, pictures 2, 3 and 4 are at the battlefield centre, 5 and 7 are in Market Bosworth town centre and the final three are in Leicester.
How can they identify Richard III's descendents after all these years in order to use their DNA? Geneticists these last 30 years have stumbled across a huge ethical dilemma which they call "Mummy's little secret". Though the figure varies a little from western country to western country, those doing DNA testing to determine heritability have found that on average, 10% of men in the west wrongly believe themselves the father of a child being investigated. The technicians and doctors involved have the problem of explaining to families that the child has a different father to the putative parent. Should they spit it out, or should they keep mum http://www.canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.aspx
Really? Richard III DNA tests uncover evidence of further royal scandal Latest genetic tests reveal another break in the male line, potentially undermining the legitimacy of the entire House of Plantagenet please log in to view this image A painting of King Richard III by an unknown artist from the 16th Century When scientists revealed last year that an adulterous affair had apparently broken the male line in Richard III’s family tree, they vowed to investigate further. But rather than clear up the mystery, their latest genetic tests have uncovered evidence of another royal sex scandal. This time, the indiscretion could potentially undermine the legitimacy of the entire House of Plantagenet. The skeleton of Richard III, the last Plantagenet king, was discovered under a car park in Leicester in 2012. His identity was confirmed through his mitochondrial DNA, passed down through the maternal line from his sister to two relatives alive today. But further DNA tests soon uncovered evidence of a family secret. It emerged when researchers at Leicester University compared the Y chromosomes of Richard III and five anonymous male relatives of Henry Somerset (1744-1803), who claim descent from Edward III, the great great grandfather of Richard III. Since the Y chromosome is passed down from father to son, it should look the same in the descendants of Henry Somerset, the 5th Duke of Beaufort, and Richard III. But genetic tests found no sign of a match. Somewhere in the family between Richard III and the Somersets, at least one man had been cuckolded. Speaking at the Science Museum in London on Wednesday, Turi King, a geneticist working on the case, revealed her team’s latest attempt to get to the bottom of the mystery. A man called Patrice de Warren, who lives in France, had come forward for genetic testing. He could trace his male line back to Richard III through the illegitimate son of Geoffrey, Count of Anjou (1113 - 1151). King knew that if de Warren’s Y chromosome matched that of Henry Somerset’s, then the affair that broke the male line must have occurred between Edward III and Richard III. But if his Y chromosome matched Richard III’s, the male line was broken between Edward III and the Somersets. The test result found neither. “De Warren’s Y chromosome doesn’t match Richard III or Henry Somerset, so somewhere along the line there’s been another false paternity event,” King told the Guardian. “It’s opened up the mystery even further.” Since the false paternity rate is around 1-2% in any generation, she said the result was not particularly surprising. For all the scientists know, Patrice de Warren carries the ‘true’ Plantagenet Y chromosome, and those found in Richard III and the extended family of Henry Somerset were inherited from another man. “The problem is that we cannot say where the break occurs. All it tells us is that we have to keep looking, and that is what we are doing,” said Kevin Schürer, a genealogy expert at Leicester who is working on the case. More likely than not, the freshly-discovered break in the male line occurred in the 22 generations that separate Patrice de Warren from Geoffrey, Count of Anjou. But if that branch of the tree is found to be intact, the consequences for the monarchy’s history become far more intriguing. “If that turned out to be the case, and this is pure speculation, then there must have been a break between the Count of Anjou and Richard III. Which means that before we raise questions about the legitimacy of the Yorkist kings and the Lancastrian kings, there are questions higher up the line, raising doubts about nearly all of the Plantagenets,” said Schürer. The latest findings do not impact on the modern monarchy at all, says King, because there are so many twists and turns in the way the throne is handed over. But depending on where the breaks happened, they could recast a crucial period in the history of the monarchy, affecting the Stuarts, the Tudors and the Windsors. The investigation is not over yet. Schürer and King now want to test the Y chromosomes of other de Warrens in the US and Australia, and men in the extended Duke of Beaufort family, an option that has clear advantages over the alternative of exhuming lots of dead bodies and testing those. “The idea is to have a pincer movement and tackle it on a number of different fronts,” said Schürer. “We’re not going to give up the quest.” The latest findings form part of a new exhibit at the Science Museum which describes the scientific discoveries around the life, death and DNA of King Richard III. The exhibit, which includes a 3D printed skeleton of the king, opens Wednesday, the day before the reinterment of his remains in Leicester. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-of-further-royal-scandal?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2
