It's a set up that works really, really well the more I look into it. A DoF/GM isn't just a football man but an educated business man as well. He's the long term vision at the club, the coach's job is literally just to get the best out of the players. I think if we can get that working we'll be ****ing laughing. Having researched it and spoken to the outlaw I'm now a huge believer in it. The only thing standing in the way of it is ego. And let's face it, those in the football community could do with being brought down a peg or two.
Sorry mate, think I caught you out with my edit. Do you reckon a foreign coach for next season. Someone used to the system?
Have to agree totally - I did some digging and spoke to my "well educated" friend (he's a legal bloke who deals a lot with football side of things) and he said it works a treat abroad and, if we can get it working the way it should work then we'll be laughing. Agree totally re Micah Richards as well - shouldn't need any manager approval! In 1 - we have Micah Richards - strong, pacey, proven centre back who would improve most sides outseid the top 4 in the league In the other we have Sebastain Coates who has looked cumbersome, despite his slim appearance, and even his own fans think he is not good enough for this league - but he's from Uruguay so we'll have him instead <headsgone>
I will get slated for it but yes. I'd go foreign. I don't know nearly enough about the candidates available but I'd be tempted to go American if there was someone suitable. I don't understand why English managers are so in demand when they all seem so inept and content to keep going on the merry-go-round and why English players are so in demand when they're so overly priced and their attitude has been tarnished by them coming through a ****ty system which puts too much focus of cars and glamour models and not enough on football. Bob Bradley springs to mind as a candidate but I think the last I heard of him he was coaching in some Swedish backwater, so I wouldn't be too sure. An American would also further increase out stature over there. A place you really want your stature increasing in at the moment.
Yeah I'm horrified by the stories of who we turned away while we chased Borini who clearly had no interest in joining us whatsoever. Utterly horrified. Instead of chasing Richards, Moses and Alderweireld... We chased Borini and Coates to please the manager. Stop trying to please the manager and get him to ****ing please everyone else as far as I'm concerned. If we've learnt anything over recent years it's that managers are completely dispensable and we need to follow someone else's vision for the club... Lee Congertons?
If Congerton can bring players of that calibre here, and they are refused out of sheer bloody mindedness, that, for me, is about as damning as it gets. Shocking.
Let's face it. The Americans, though late, have arrived to the party. Within 30 years I think they'll have won a world cup. They've got a massive population, they live for sport and they're ****ing rich in terms of finance and sports science. It will happen, I'm near enough sure of it. The MLS, I think, will grow. I think the salary cap may hinder them but if that was gone I think stars would flock over there. I'd take the system of the ****ing draft to be honest. Get these young footballers into school and university like they're near enough forced into over there. It would make for a far finer class of footballer than your Gerrards, your Rooneys, your Terrys. I think I've become completely disillusioned by the way we work over here and I don't think it works. We'll never dominate because we are happy to overpay for mediocrity. I think they'll end up showing us how it's done and we'll have to conform to their ways. Late to the party unless we catch the **** up. Controversial I know.
Well the septic tanks are used to getting their own way in all world events. Pretty soon before you can say Uncle Sam we'll be playing four quarters instead of two halves so they can fit more ad breaks in.
Well as they are the worlds police force they can pretty much do what they like. I certainly hold the USA up as an example. One not to follow.
I think where sport is concerned they're often a decent act to follow. Elsewhere... Not so much. Sadly that didn't stop Blair going into the desert. You know if football (American) stadiums don't sell out the NFL hold back a percentage of TV money owed to the club... So they make sure they sell out by bringing the prices down. I can think of a club and a set of fans that would benefit from that!
You can see how it works better in the US though as they have a draft system where scouts have to compile massive databases setting up vast quantities of suitable targets as not all targets are guaranteed. It's far too much work for a Manager alone to do and demands it's own department. There isn't the same call to do this in England as the grassroots set up is ****ed and doesn't demand as much time or detail or planning. So most Managers see the DOF role as unneeded and stepping their toes in an area they feel they manage themselves. Set up our grassroots to have fa centers of excellence tied to University's scrap the U18's at club level and set up a collage league and introduce drafts and scholarships where clubs don't get their hands on them until the U21 stage then everyone will have DoF, what's more I think the standard of young players in this country will improve, their head won't be in the stars as a big club will be unattainable without the graft and they finish their education too. The Yanks have a great blueprint over there and the DoF really earn their wages.
I think it's moronic that we aren't putting this sort of thing into place now that I've read more into it. @The Outlaw will love this when he gets round to reading it.
It works very well here and I think we would be an excellent model. Nothing nationalistic in my sentiment, purely about sport (no need to attack, Billy!). As I've stated previously, there are some brilliant models to follow. Billy Beane, also mentioned in an earlier post, was just hired by AZ Alkmaar as a consultant. He will do very well there, sharing his knowledge on how to build and sustain a successful organization within budget. There is so much data and information available now to serve a club's plan, that to me it's incomprehensible that they wouldn't put it to use. To many, it has been proven beyond any doubt that the way to build a club (pick your sport) is from top to bottom. The Chairman/DoF lays out the plan, and then every decision after that is meant to serve the larger plan/philosophy. Southampton follows this type of model with passion, and have proven it can work in the prem. There was even a documentary on ESPN here illustrating how Southampton were utilizing these new models for success, while still making it their own. No reason SAFC can't build a successful, and sustainable, model that would serve as an example to others. It requires the right person for the job tho, and that person is not the manager. Leap of faith, yes, but relegation battles every year seems the alternative.
I'm sorry, didn't mean to offend but I just can't take anyone called Billy Bean seriously. Sounds like some kind of new fangled dildo.
From what I know about the bloke I'd give your left nut for it to be us. I like my left nut a bit much to give that away.
