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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    I was watching Final Score yesterday & there was a good debate about this.
    Basically, both Steve Claridge & Jason Roberts said that if they are going to bring it in then it has to be for everything or nothing at all.
    IE, not just goal line technology, but also for offsides, free kicks & so on.
    I have to say I agree. It works just fine in rugby so why not football?
     
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  2. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Totally agree. Long overdue.
     
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  3. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    They could at least give it a go to see if it works..
     
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  4. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I think the manager should get 3 challenges per match each, for everything it would be too stop start, give them challenges and it would add a bit of fire to it imo
     
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  5. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    Rugby is a stop start game just like tennis so there is a built in period when decisions can be challenged with a suitable outcome. Bit even this was dubious in the Union World cup final when England got done out of a try in the first minute as the rule did not cover the circumstances so a panel gave no try.The only way technology can work in football is for the ball and players to have sensors that show when and how the player was fouled etc and a whistle can sound with an explanation of why.

    When that day comes we may as well just chuck the rule book away as the human element of refereeing will be finished along with players just colliding accidenaltly..
     
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  6. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Well the point of the op was do you think it should be used for all decisions?
    After yesterdays fiasco of that West Brom lad I think the refs need all the help they can get.
    I know it's not an easy job but surely they would appreciate all the help they can get.
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    I think that it could certainly be used to correct such clangers as this one..
     
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  8. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    TV evidence.

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    Oh no, not another Adam Johnson thread I hope. <laugh>
     
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  9. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Five years ago the argument was that football shouldn't be like American football, stop start and slow.

    Now the tide has turned and with the technology available, human error just isn't acceptable anymore.

    Our identity as a flowing game is less important than rectifying the poor performance of referees.

    What I think is unimportant to be honest because general consensus is that technology is needed and as such it's just a matter of time.
     
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  10. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    Ah soul.
     
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  11. Home_and_Away

    Home_and_Away Well-Known Member

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    Thought you'd have a better perspective on this sort of thing after what happened to Steve Moran / Mark Wright!?

    ****in idiot
     
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  12. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Like i say, 3 challenges but not every desicion, it would be ridiculous, the games too fast
     
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  13. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    He's a piss flap mate.
    Tack nee notice.
     
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  14. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    The half dozen games I have watched over the weekend contained refereeing errors in Spain, UK and Germany. The most clear cut was the Gerrard stamp perfectly seen and dealt with by the ref, the rest was all down to the speed of the game and, players over reacting to gain any advantage.

    Put the boot on the other foot and use technology to prove that player behaviour is it the back of most problems.
     
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  15. grimsby mackem

    grimsby mackem Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see a video ref that watches the game real time but can replay contentious moments and give the ref a hand, The worst you can get with this is a decision being given a few seconds late without the game having to be stopped unnecessarily. Not keen on the idea of teams having challenges as it'll be used for time wasting to break the game up and make it stop start, the goal line technology has been a real success as it doesn't require the game to stop to check the decision if they can get a video ref in on the same basis then I'm all for that. I have to say a few years ago I was 100% against this but the refs just seem to be getting worse and worse with the technology available there is no excuse for not bringing it in.
     
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  16. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    But if you restrict the amount of appeals then they have to think wisely
     
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  17. The Relic

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    I agree with Billy here. At present we have a system where t.v. can be used to ostracize refs after the match, yet we refuse them technology to help the ref. during the match! I've hated referees since 1948, but, let's be frank, the poor buggers can't win these days, can they? <laugh> I'm delighted for the f***ers.
     
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  18. grimsby mackem

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    Wouldn't stop a scenario of a team being a goal up with a couple of minutes left and an appeal left abusing the system though could you imagine if this happened in a cup final for example, there would be uproar. I just think it's certain to be abused mate.
     
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    Its 99% down to the present day players cheating and conning their way through games its farcical the antics used its more like a slap stick show than sport ,its totally out of control and needs the governing bodies to be stronger in getting our sport back to a degree of honesty and played as such .
    Anybody else enjoyed football a great deal more in the 60s,70s,80s because i certainly did .
     
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  20. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Agree with the OP - goal-line tech cost millions to implement and has only been required around 5 or 6 times this season in the PL. Out of 765 goals around 2 or 3 have required goal-line tech.

    Incorrect offsides (goal scoring opportunities) are in their hundreds. Incorrectly awarded or not awarded penalties are up towards a hundred (read a stat recently but can;t find it at the moment - will keep digging) incorrect sending's off and non-sendings off are way more than goal line tech - so there are 3 potential game changers that have a massive stat against them and the only one that gets millions pumped into it is the goal line tech - less than 0.4% of the goals given have been given by goal line tech - and the chances are that they may have been given anyhow - it has correctly not allowed 2 or 3 as well I believe - so out of 765 goals - goal line tech has had a hand in 5 or 6 I think (not 100% certain but I believe that's the numbers - millions for what?

    However - I like the arguments and the debates we have after games - It is, after all, what football has always been about to us "normal non-playing folk"... So I'm between a rock and a hard place with this one
     
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