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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by St. Luigi Scrosoppi, Mar 17, 2015.

  1. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    You're actually touching on my earlier point. It is an easy and relatively cheap way of keeping the smaller clubs down. It has nothing to do with strengthening the buying side, but all to do with weakening the challenging side. As mentioned several times, it was not confined to SFC, being cherry picked, at all, but it has also occurred to other clubs who have dared to rock the boat of the big 4 [maybe 6]. We just happen to be the club of choice at present. I suspect the end of this season may well have the same outcome, whatever European competition we qualify for.

    Incidentally, it will be interesting to see if Harry Kane moves from Spurs should he be good enough to be properly noticed by the others, even though he is within the maybe 6.
     
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    And? Any one would rather work in a bigger far more successful business and I am not just talking about footballers.
     
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  3. Beef

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    Not imo, it is a easy and cheap way of building better squads. Which will lead to more trophies etc. Big teams want the best teams its as simple as that.
     
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    I'm not so sure about bigger necessarily in terms of 'normal' workers. Some would, some prefer smaller companies with a more personal touch.
     
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    I was talking about the ambitious ones. The ones that want to rise to the top (as do almost all football players). I get there will be people happy at smaller businesses.
     
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  6. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Yet still you are missing the essential point. Bigger clubs don't necessarily always buy smaller club players to strengthen themselves, but merely to weaken the competition.
     
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    I'm a teacher. You can't use personal financial ambition against me as, with my qualifications, I'm earning about the minimum I could possibly find - anywhere. I don't think there is anything wrong with wishing for a more level footballing playing field. It is supposed to be a sport - not a business. I guess some people enjoy the financial aspect - but I don't.
     
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    I am not missing the point. You are missing that I have a different opinion. I even said in a early reply I got what you ment.
     
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    That's all well and good spacedsaint, but it isn't just a sport anymore. It has moved on and is now a money machine at one end. We might not like that, but it is what it is.
     
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    I don't agree with that. I don't think they buy players to weaken the likes of us. I would agree that they buy players that their competitors may want to stop them buying a player. We are not yet a Chelsea/City/United.
     
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    don't agree with that. I don't think they buy players to weaken the likes of us.

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    Indeed, its just a handy bonus! <grr>
     
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  12. fran-MLs little camera

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    Teams like Chelsea etc are not overly worried about us...or at least no more than they worry about teams like West Ham, Spurs, Newcastle. They buy to strengthen and perhaps to prevent another top club buying a player, but we are not there yet.
     
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    I'm with you on wishing that the playing field was more level. The problem is, we can't go back. In fact, we daren't go back now. Perhaps if we went back to somewhen in 1980 or thereabouts, and the then Saints board had said yes to one or two things like, Yes, we will build a new stadium, and Yes, we will buy a top striker to replace the injured Steve Moran and to win the league, then I would go back. But not now. I realise that is tipping the balance with money, but the Saints board were so blastedly prudent and unambitious back then that with hindsight we could have had this success potential much earlier, if they had spent at the right time.
     
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    I don't think anyone is unaware of the fact football is now little more than a stock market with silly stripes shirts. I also don't think it is wrong to hope that one day the playing field may be levelled. It won't be, but that is not a good thing and nor can it be spun into one.
     
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    OK, we'll agree to disagree then. As I said, it was a thought only. The difference in our opinion is that I don't dismiss the possibility.
     
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  16. TheSecondStain

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    Oh I think there are plenty. I don't think any of them exist here on this forum, but in a land where some people think Coronation Street is real anything is possible. :cool:

    I also think some people believe that clubs behave honourably between each other. I don't think that has been the norm for decades, if ever, and certainly not in this day of huge money.
     
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  17. Archers Road

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    If football clubs are business's, (and we all know they are) perhaps the Competition and Markets Authority might want to take a look at the Premier League. I won't hold my breath though.
     
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    In the USA they actively try to create a level playing field so that the richest, biggest clubs don't win every year. Of course they run the draft system that football doesn't have which makes it easier but it does seem they have recognised the problem in a small way. It doesn't neccessarily work 100% but at least they try.

    What does FIFA, Eufa, the Premier League and the FA do? Nothing.

    After all as a business surely the same couple of teams winning everything and not really losing to many teams [except amongst themselves] is ultimately 'bad for business'?

    I dunno it makes my head spin but I have to be honest ManUre, Chelsea, CIteh, Arsenal and apparently even Liverpool and Spuds every single year bores me rigid. Especially with all the best players only ever wanting to play for them.

    If you look at the fans comments here, and I agree with most of them, for the rest of our lives we've actually got nothing to look forward to [in the football sense I mean of course].

    I hope something changes eventually.
     
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    I'm not sure that they can do something truly muscular on a Europe-wide basis; it'd lose in court. And absent that, no national organization is going to hamstring their representatives in those European competitions by aggressively trying to level the playing field.

    It's great fun...the sports synonymous with the United States, paragon of free market capitalism and anti-regulatory zeal, feature universal unionization and collective bargaining agreements that dictate every possible action, plus revenue-sharing systems that are downright socialist. Europe, that old bastion of social democracy, features sporting leagues with ridiculous stratification between rich and poor, the result of decades of laissez-faire markets where players are literally bought and sold for cold currency.
     
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  20. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Be more like American sports?!

    **** that. Ridiculously corporate franchises with stupid names and cheerleaders. Have you seen their version of women's American football??!! They have to wear lingerie whilst they play - no ****ing joke!!

    We do need a salary cap though.
     
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