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Hull City Supporters' Trust ask owners to abandon name change application

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  1. tigermaul

    tigermaul Well-Known Member

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    That BBC story is pathetically biased. It highlights the one ground on which Allam gained some traction -- which in any non Alice in Wonderland world would be utterly laughable. Whoever wrote it should hang their heads in shame. There is no mention of the multifarious ways in which the FA found the name-change application fell horribly short.
     
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  2. DMD

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    Bonus points for the use of multifarious. Excellent word. <ok>
     
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  3. Ambraneri

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    I've noticed going through the #hcafc hashtag on Twitter that there's a few fans who have always been considered "Pro-Allam",that are now either in the NTHT camp altogether or are calling for Allam to drop the name change once and for all.

    It seems like our esteemed leader is running out of friends and supporters.

    Crazy how it's got this far....he should be our greatest ever owner.
     
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  4. Sunbeam-Tiger

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    Wow that's 18 post from 17000 ish season ticket holder's that really represents the majority
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    Dipshit. <doh>
     
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  6. PLT

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    Jesus wept.
     
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  7. ImperialTiger

    ImperialTiger Well-Known Member

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    I see from the Beeb's quoting that the club have at least corrected the grammatical errors in "biased" from their press release.
     
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  8. Muffinthegoat

    Muffinthegoat Well-Known Member

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    I hadn't realised every season ticket holder was on Twitter. Thanks for that.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    Allam’s needless attack on Hull’s name and community
    Owner is taking problem with local council out on the wrong people

    20 March ~ Everyone is claiming victory after the latest development in the Hull City name change saga but, in reality, it seems little has changed. The name stays the same but the club can again try to alter it. Yet the subsequent comments of Assem Allam have given his detractors serious hope that the whole sorry business is coming to an end.
    The FA, in setting aside their initial rejection of Allam's request to change the name to Hull Tigers, were nonetheless scathing in the club's disregard for the views of supporters, highly critical of the flawed ballot that was belatedly introduced into the procedure and expressed their surprise that Allam had enclosed no coherent business plan in his original application. Yet despite the sugar and medicine scenario in pillorying the application but giving the club room to rework it, and the club's initial (and badly spun) response that their appeal was a success, Allam has said the original application still stands.

    Logically, the supporters against the name change, led by a newly formed supporters’ trust and several prominent fans websites, have taken this as an indication that it's just about over. The FA are unlikely to accept an application identical to the one they've just picked substantial holes in, and therefore it seems Allam has decided this is the best way for him to save face. But having never been a man of his word since arriving at the club, there is still a fair amount of trepidation over what may happen next, especially as season ticket investment from many supporters for 2015-16 will depend on it.

    It all still feels so needless. Allam's true problem, and reasoning for the name change, is his dislike of Hull City Council, owners of the KC Stadium, and his wish to dissociate from them by removing the second third of their name from that of his own business. This has escalated in recent weeks with his sudden, arbitrary decision as head of the Stadium Management Company (SMC) to eject local sports clubs, many of which are for kids and the disabled, from the nearby Airco Arena.

    This is a venue the SMC also run alongside the stadium as part of the community guarantee the council inserted into the original deal to pacify voters who were unsure about spending lots of council tax money on a luxury sports complex for professionals. Allam needs a 3G pitch urgently to up the club's academy status and has decided that the arena is the best place to put it. Kids who go trampolining or play badminton there will very soon have nowhere to go.

    Allam has always talked about his purchase of Hull City in 2010 after the egregious profligacy of the Russell Bartlett era as a "gift" to the city that he made home after leaving Egypt, and has regularly declared himself a man of "the community". His antics since have shown that because of a “business is business" attitude, and a stubborn, mardy disposition when it comes to having people (ie fans and the FA) "telling" him how to run that business, his benevolence and community spirit are superficial, at best.

    He has until April 1 to make a fresh application over the name change. If he, for once, sticks to his word and holds back, the FA should have Hobson's choice, and the tireless No To Hull Tigers campaign, which has throughout been conducted with intelligence, can stand down, job done. Then it, and everyone else, will wait to see if Allam keeps his word for an unprecedented second time and sells up. Meanwhile, there is a battle against relegation to focus on and, if that ends badly, the owner will have the clearest evidence he could ever need of how relevant supporters really are.

    Matthew Rudd


    http://www.wsc.co.uk/wsc-daily/1193...ack-on-hull-s-name-and-community-is-needless#
     
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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Kids who go trampolining or play badminton will have nowhere to go!! Like ****.
    My kids gymnastics are moving form the Airco, so what. She already does it somewhere else as well.

    The move is for our football club.
     
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    Chaz, even if that's right for all the soon to be former users, and even it's for the good of the club, there's ways of doing things, and this certainly isn't it. Even more so with it being on top of other PR disasters.

    It leaves a very bad taste and the Club gets tainted with it.
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

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    tHE
    There just isnt time Dutch. We need it now. We arent a charity, this is business. We cant set up consultation processes, be nice etc etc. Business gets things done. Yes its short notice but we have to move quickly.
    Geraghty mentioned building the ice rink 2-3 years ago, nowt happened and he's still on about it. nowt will happen.
     
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  13. DMD

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    If this is the price, I'd rather not have it. It's wrong.
     
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    The attitude of a dictator! Which is what Allam is
     
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  15. swftiger

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    Kcstadium website says "The Sports Arena is situated in West Park adjacent to the Kingston Communications Stadium and is managed by the Stadium Management Company. The facilities at the Sports Arena are second to none and provide opportunities and a top class venue for local teams and clubs across a wide range of sports. The venue is also popular for many events, including, conferences, trade fairs and exhibitions, boxing and wrestling shows, craft fairs and matial arts competitions."
    Well that will need some rewriting then.
     
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    Since when has Ehab Allam been an Arab ????????
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    It's not like we've only just found out we need this facility,the whole thing has simply been badly handled.

    We requested an audit a year ago, despite knowing that we had no indoor facility and that was an absolute requirement to achieve Level 2 status. It failed as a consequence and Ehab kicked-off at the news that we couldn't be audited again until 2016, demanding one earlier, despite the fact that there was still no indoor pitch, or even any plans for one. Then we get one earlier and we still don't have the facility we need, so suddenly it's a ****ing emergency!

    When we demanded another audit in October, we obviously knew there was nowhere near enough time to build a completely new facility, so why didn't we give the Airco people six months notice?

    "The aim is to get Category Two next season and that's what we're working hard to get. But we have to have the indoor facility, it's as simple as that. We're constantly looking at what we can do and talking to people every week to see what we need to do in the short-term to tick that box." Tony Pennock 14th Oct 2014.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    What difference does that make as there's categorically absolutely nowhere they can go to is there?? We would have had talks conferences meetings discussions consultations, lots of chest puffing from TG and others. Hcst would demand to attend meetings have talks, offer support to the "community" etc etc And nothing would have happened.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    If they'd built a facility at the start of this process, instead of panicking about it at the end, they wouldn't be in this mess and if the clubs involved had been given six months notice they could have sorted alternative sites and wouldn't currently be forced to cancel their fixtures.

    The club looked at building a bubble pitch facility next door to Airco, I'm still not sure why that didn't happen, or why they didn't get one installed at Bishop Burton, or in Cottingham, it's not even a permanent building and could be moved if we built another permanent facility in the future.

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  20. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Yet you and others think you should be told for some reason. This is being done for the club to progress. Gets my full backing.

    Tony Pennock
    "The indoor surface won't just benefit the under-18s or the under-21s, it will be used right from the under-12s to the first team.

    "We're fortunate enough to have a fantastic set-up at Bishop Burton, but it will mean we can all train at the Airco on icy evenings without any problems.

    "If we do manage to achieve Category Two status, it will be massive for the development of our players throughout the academy."

    Along with Burnley, the Tigers currently have the lowest ranked academy in the Premier League.

    The Category Three status means they are not allowed to compete in the Professional Development League and instead face sides like Mansfield, Hartlepool and Gateshead in the Youth Alliance and the Development League East.


     
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