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Match Day Thread The Breakfast Debate / Fulham v Leeds Utd

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Mar 18, 2015.

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Scoreline Fulham v Lees Utd

Poll closed Mar 19, 2015.
  1. 0-0

    11.8%
  2. 1-1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 2-2

    5.9%
  4. 3-3 or higher

    5.9%
  5. Fulham to win by 1 goal

    5.9%
  6. Fulham to win by 2 goals

    5.9%
  7. Fulham to win by 3 or more goals

    5.9%
  8. Leeds to win by 1 goal

    23.5%
  9. Leeds to win by 2 goals

    11.8%
  10. Leeds to win by 3 or more goals

    35.3%
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  1. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    No malice Eire,

    I'm not so sure it's comical Eire, some of us actually look at the performances, we're not exactly playing brilliant football and our performances are not super, and we definitely don't have the best midfield in this league as it's them and the strikers that are our main problems, as well as Redders.

    Our defence have to soak up way way too much continual pressure game after game after game. Fulham were running through our midfield willy nilly, even when we were 1-0, 2-0 and 3-0 up. One day our defensive wall will crack, and through no fault of our defensive players.

    There were only 3 telling factors for our win against Fulham, our defense who stood fast while soaking up wave after wave of unnecessary attacks and pressure, a keeper who was on the ball once again, and McContract and Smith doing great imitations of Sharp and Morison.

    Had Smith had his heading head on, then it could easily have been a reverse scoreline earlier in game.

    Fulham had 27 shots, this not only shows why they are at the bottom end of league, but also shows how easy it was for them to cut through our midfield and tee up their shots.

    The defenders can't go too far forward when the opposing team are building up their attack, it would leave big gaps and holes for strikers and their feeders to exploit, that's where the midfield come in, the mids are not breaking down opposing attacks, not very often actually. Nor are our mids very good at feeding our strikers, if they were even Morison would've scored at least one by now.

    Wasn't a very good performance imo, especially in first half, very lucky not to be 2 or 3 down at half time. Fulham completely dominated us in first half, and continued to do so in second half, even after having a man sent off.

    The good point is, we scored 3 goals from open play, and not from deflections, free kicks, penalties or bad ref decisions. Berardi had a great game, Taylor struggled a bit, Murphy mostly quiet, Mowatt and Cook running around like headless chickens and Byram did enough to warrant his place; Sharp and Morison delivered their bodies, but their minds seem to have gone on to White Hart Lane or Stamford Bridge, probably for a sightseeing tour.

    Good to see Bamba grabbing a goal, Byram bagged another and Antenucci grabbed his 9th goal of season. Funny, after 38 games Antenucci is still our top scorer with 9 goals, thanks to very limited playing time.

    We are no where near good enough, forward of the defense, to be a promotion chasing side next season, I personally wouldn't give Redders an extension as I believe he's too bias and not good enough to achieve what we all want to achieve next season.
     
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  2. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    Do you think that could be the reason why Monty and Adryan were dropped from the development squad, that lost 4-1 I think recently?
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    No prob ll. The thing is, I'm like many fans an mainly interested in results. When Leeds win, im in great form for the following days, when they lose, im not good. Each fan to their own of course but im not knowledgeable enough to dissect each performance but am happy that way. I grew up in the 70's seeing just snippets of highlights but living for the result. Was and is all that matters to me
     
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  4. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    Totally understand Eire, there's plenty of fans who are just interested in the results, no matter how they come about, and, at the end of it it's the league table position that tells a story.

    I, like a few others am just one of these that watch and listen to matches but also notice finer details, or things that others may miss etc. I do have a tendency to dissect, analyse and/or read between lines but that's just in my nature, it's part of my makeup, but I do understand it's not for everyone.

    Similar to you I started supporting Leeds during the middle to end of Don Revies reign, seen a lot, celebrated a lot, blasphemed a lot and missed quite a lot while stationed in Germany with Army, had to rely on day late newspapers for results back then untill BF Radio and Telly was fully functional. To be honest, I wouldn't change my Army service......:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  5. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    Why? I don't think that we should go and experiment with the matchday squad personally. I would like to see some creative players in the team like everyone else but they should still have to earn their place in the team rather than just get game time because there's nothing to play for. We should be going out to win every game still and to do that should be picking our best 11. I don't believe that is our best 11 but Redders clearly does so I have no issue with his lack of experimentation. Thats not to say I don't have issues with Redfearn though.
     
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  6. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Quite possibly, I can't see any reason other why we are not trying a few of them now. Maybe their pay is based on appearances, I just believe Redfearn must have had the nod that we are not going to be signing them.

    When you have loan players with you and you have the option to buy them for quite a large expense come the end of the season you would expect to see them featuring at this stage of the season....

    This season is finished for us, I now don't care if we win lose or draw if I can see it is being used as part preparation for next season, I can't believe how many games young Cook has played for us, take him out the spotlight now, rest him for a few games these next few matches are not going to define our season
     
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  7. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Even though it means buying Eire beer, given that captain clueless isn't going to build for next season and ain't going to change things I have an objective that would be nice to achieve.

    Let's double millwalls points total for the season.
    They were saying on sky that if we win on Saturday we mathematically relegate rapist fc. Let's do it.
     
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  8. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    If the aim is to save money by not playing certain players as we've nothing to play for then why bring on Antennucci with only a few minutes to play and already two goals up?

    He's on £3,000 per goal and scored the third
     
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  9. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    Don't get me wrong, I like to see good squad rotation. It should happen throughout the season anyway but Redders doesnt seem a fan. I don't want to see certain players playing purely for experimentation purposes. If they are good enough then fine, I'd like us to add more creativity in the lineup anyway. Redfearn should realistically know by now what loan players he likes and which ones he doesn't. He's been around em for almost a full season now.
     
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  10. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    And yet we continue to have a midfield that contributes nothing defensively and he picks Morison as a winger, so your point is.....
     
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  11. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say his opinion is right <laugh>
     
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  12. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Therein lies the problem.
     
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  13. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I read somewhere else he was on this kind of money and it left me wondering why Redfearn brought him on, I mean we are 2-0 up against 10 men why bring him on? What did we have to learn or gain from bringing him on?
     
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  14. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Nothing at all.
    Cani or Morison (yes he came on later) would have benefitted from a chance to bag a goal. Redfearn is clueless and one dimensional.
     
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  15. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    It's fairly obvious, even to me, that Redfearn is looking at developing a winning mentality throughout the team rather than trying to develop any single player.
     
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  16. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It isn't about developing a player, it is about seeing how they perform on a proper match day, not on the training ground. If they were not being loaned to us with a view to a permanent fee attached at the end of the season I could understand it.

    Cani is a prime example, I wasn't excited about his stats before he joined but he is here on loan and if he is any good he will be signed, we need to try him out. Worse case scenario we play him for 2-3 games, he turns out to be awful and Redfearn can turn round to Cellino and say "please let me have more input".

    There has to be more to it all in regards to why we are not experimenting with a player here and there. Take the Fulham game, we started with Sharp who failed to score, we replaced him with Morison who never scores, by all accounts we were being well and truly outplayed in the first 45 minutes, would it have made much difference to start with Cani and see what he can do?
     
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  17. BoggersMOT

    BoggersMOT Well-Known Member

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    Chippy, you are clearly brainless. The team worked their sox off yesterday, & got home 3-0. WTF else do you want? Play offs are a bit of a stretch & not very likely. But not impossible. The FL would also have a field day if we tried to play an under strength team when others would be looking at this game & hoping we do our best to ensure others aren't put at a disadvantage in the relegation battle
     
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  18. BoggersMOT

    BoggersMOT Well-Known Member

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    CHIPPY, FFS what are you on about? We're winning. 3-0 away from home. WTF else do you want?
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    The fl will let us pick any of our n

    The fl wouldn't give a flying **** who we pick so long as they are within our 550 strong first team squad.
    Yes we won 3-0 but for an hour we were outplayed by a team that in any other year would be relegated.

    I am so sure that Redfearn will hold us back that I will donate £100 to a charity of your choice if we finish above fulham next season if Redfearn is in Charge of us till next christmas, are you prepared to match it?
     
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  20. BoggersMOT

    BoggersMOT Well-Known Member

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    Fair comment Chippy. Time will tell. If you're that keen to donate money to charity, then any animal charity
     
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