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Tony Fernandes was kidding himself by thinking QPR needed to give youth a chance

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  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Tony Fernandes was kidding himself by thinking QPR needed to give youth a chance
    • With QPR rooted in the relegation zone, Fernandes thought the club should give their youth players a chance in the first team
    • Darnell Furlong started the 3-1 loss at Crystal Palace but was substituted at half-time for a 36-year-old with flu
    • Adel Taarabt played 90 minutes and looked heavy and poor
    • So there was no secret stash of talent, ignored by the previous manager
    By Martin Samuel - Sport for the Daily Mail
    Published: 00:02 GMT, 16 March 2015 | Updated: 01:44 GMT, 16 March 2015
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    Tony Fernandes thought Queens Park Rangers were not getting enough out of their players. He thought the younger ones should get more of a chance. Now he knows.
    Darnell Furlong, 19, was removed at half-time against Crystal Palace and replaced by a 36-year-old with flu, having been given a terrible time by Yannick Bolasie.
    Palace were leading 3-0 by then. Adel Taarabt played a full 90 minutes and looked heavy and poor. So there was no secret stash of talent, ignored by the previous manager.
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    Darnell Furlong (right) finds it tough going against Glenn Murray and was substituted at half-time
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    Charlie Austin tries to point Adel Taarabt in the right direction but QPR look to be heading down
    Fighting relegation all season, Rangers would have been one of the easiest teams to make. A talented youngster or an outcast like Taarabt would have been instantly recalled had there been the slightest spark or inclination.
    There are some clubs — and Tim Sherwood has proved that Aston Villa are one — where an underachieving group can be energised. That isn’t the case at QPR. The best players were playing and weren’t good enough. It really was no more complicated than that.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2996355/Tony-Fernandes-kidding-thinking-QPR-needed-youth-chance.html#ixzz3UWLSiaEx
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  2. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    We could have told TF that, he just appears to be clueless, like Nero fiddling as Rome burns...
     
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  3. BlindFaith

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    Think everybody bar the board new we had an imbalanced squad, players playing out of position & lack of cover so needed to need to do something in the January window but seems TF was more concerned with playing games to get HR to quit rather than have the balls to sack him & now we're well & truly f***ed.
     
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  4. qprbeth

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    TF doesn't demand Ramsey puts youth players in the team....and the only one who is really in the team is Furlong....and that is because, thanks to Arry we do not own a premiership level RB. Ramsey has been stymied by the Arry legacy.

    Doughty and GregoCox are getting exactly what they should "a feel" for the first team

    I do agree with Blind Faith.....TF was playing mind games with Arry to get him to resign......I assume because of that we do not owe Arry any money....very SMART....however......
    It was a gamble that someone else (Ramsey) would keep us up.......but most probably another gamble that failed.
     
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  5. sb_73

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    Redknapp's contract was up in the summer. I am sure he was sacked, paid off for 6 months, and given the opportunity to spin a tale to retain some dignity. That he chose to tell a bare faced lie about his knees and has already been caught out on it tells you everything you need to know about the character of this creep.

    Martin Samuel enjoys sticking the boot in on QPR, I wonder if it's because he got money for ghost writing Redknapp's fictional autobiography. He omits to note that the players we have who are not good enough were chosen by Redknapp, coached by Redknapp, and that Redknapp had a couple of years to get some decent youth in place.

    Redknapp was allowed to get away with blaming Mark Hughes, who left him a much more talented and balanced squad that Ramsey has, for his total failure in 2013. Surely Chris Ramsey should be given the same leeway.
     
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  6. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    This is just Redknapp's mate putting the knife in for him. Samuel is full of crap.

    However, the treatment of young Furlong has been diabolical imo.
     
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  7. Bush Rhino

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    Do we know this as fact? I don't ask because I think I know it's just that deal was very grey.

    Not convinced it was Harry choice to ship him out.
     
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  8. danishqp

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    Fernandes - QPR Ownership = To Hell in a Handcart

    My outright disapproval and disdain for this buffoon is well documented, how any of you can prefer this incompetent to Briatore and Ecclestone, one can only wonder.
    The Goons picked us up when we were the last ones in the whole League to win a game and heading south to Div 1 quickly. They left us 4 years later in the Premiership and debt free and with a few seasons of playing half decent football at times. Fernandes has taken a debt free club and shoved 247 M GBP of losses on to it in nearly 4 seasons, a squad worth peanuts and heading probably south to Div 1 if we're lucky.

    I will always support my club, that doesn't mean I don't need to support the temporary staff and idiots trying to ruin it.

    We are a joke of a club that pays more on has beens than Atletico or Dortmund on quality. You simply couldn't make it up, and one more for you whilst we're at it, Sir Les? - Fantastic player, wouldn't want him as the rookie he is, running my club.

    And here comes all the - Tony is great, we're so lucky to have an owner like Tone, he's made mistakes but he's learning - listen to yourselves!!!!
     
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  9. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't class Simpson as a Premier League class right back. Both ourselves and Newcastle got rid of him and now he is at Leicester who will be a Championship club like ourselves in a few weeks time. He is not a consistent PL right back IMO.
     
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  10. WormwoodScrubbsQPR

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    Here I think that you are the one with selective memory. Yes, the players had more talent and the side maybe had balance, but they were NOT a team. That is why we ended up in the sh!t last time.

    And anyone who says "all it needed was some decent man management" doesn't understand the problems with the player relationships at that time in the dressing room.
     
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    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you Danish on TF. Personally, I haven't made my mind up yet on Les. Great post all the same.
     
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  12. sb_73

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    Well, I said the squad (not team) was more talented and better balanced and you seem to agree. Obviously there was something seriously wrong with the attitude and spirit of many, perhaps the majority, of them. We paid Redknapp £3m a year to sort it and he has left us with a weaker and unbalanced squad. All I am saying is that Redknapp was allowed to use his inheritance as an excuse, so Ramsey should have the same leeway. That he has not chosen to take it is a credit to him.

    Do you have special info on the dressing room dynamic? I don't, but I don't doubt it was toxic. A situation like that is only allowed to flourish through poor culture and weak leadership, which we have had in abundance over the last 3 years.
     
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  13. GoldhawkRoad

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    I'd say, rose tinted glasses on the Goons, Danish. Remember Briatore's revolving door policy for managers and interference with matters on the pitch? It was the Mittals not the Goons that insisted on Warnock coming in, after Briatore and the list of failed managers was making us into a laughing stock.

    After we got promotion, the Goons decided to sell but delayed so much that TF came in with only days to spare before the start of the season. Then, panic buys.

    Where I do agree with you, is that TF has to show now that he's in command and has a build-from-the-bottom-up stategy for the team under a promising youthful manager, and is realistic (within the rules, including the Football League) in relation to new stadium and training ground.
     
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  14. Swords Hoopster.

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    That's not quite true Stan. The team was one point off safety when Redknapp left. When Hughes left we were cut adrift. There's no way on earth this squad is weaker or more unbalanced than the one Sparkless left. That was the worst squad I've ever come across in my life.

    The real culprit here is Fernandes. Hughes was a decent manager before he came to us. Redknapp was a decent manager before he came to us. Most players we've signed over the last 4 years were decent before they came to us. There's one constant here and its Fernandes. The Club is rotten from the top down and while that remains the case, we'll continue to be a black hole for players and managers alike.
     
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  15. Bush Rhino

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    Yep all to true, but far more important is the question Beth wont answer.

    Now for that once in a lifetime all expeses paid, dream holiday to Neil Warnocks Devon Villa:

    Who sold Danny Simpson? was it TF or 'Arry as it seems 'Arrys getting the blame for that one anyway.

    Anyone? Have a guess?
     
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  16. GoldhawkRoad

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    Hughes has shown that if he inherits a decent team, he can finesse it. But he hasn't proved that he can build a team ground up, and in our case he failed dismally and I don't think you can blame TF for that.
     
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  17. danishqp

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    Not rose tinted, just based on facts:
    1. When they came in we were bottom of Championship heading south - when they left we were in the Prem
    2. When they came in we didn't have a proverbial pot to ... when they left we were attractive enough for someone to buy us for decent cash
    3. We played some half decent football under their tenure
    4. They attracted big players (companies) to invest in little old us

    That they were lunatics is indisputable, but certainly at least in results, they were cleverer lunatics than this buffoon.
     
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  18. Swords Hoopster.

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    I can actually Goldie. Fernandes shouldn't have let him loose like a child in a sweet shop. What other Chairman of a small Club would allow a manager bring in players on contracts like that? Can you think of one? Oh yes, the Portsmouth one <yikes>

    What we need is a prudent Chairman who knows what he's doing not a clown who hasn't a clue. I used to love Tony but now I realise he's the problem.
     
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  19. sb_73

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    Whatever. Let's agree that any player or manager who comes to QPR is likely to turn to crap almost instantly. How Fernandes achieves this I'm not sure, but it is fairly predictable.

    The staggering thing is that, despite this complete shambles and the ongoing misery of the experience, this club has spent 3 of the last 4 seasons in the PL. Winning 20 out of 105 games (10 in 2011-12) in those three seasons may be a pointer as to why we are so ****ing pissed off with the club, the players, the management and each other.
     
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  20. devonqprboy

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    It is a bit harsh on Furlong. Yes, he did have a torrid time on Saturday and was pulled off at half time as a result but you have to consider that he is still learning and that would have been a useful lesson and I have seen many a seasoned pro similarily ripped apart in games.

    SWP showed why he hasn't started any games. A shadow of his former self and painted a sorry picture really. Tarbs also showed why he hasn't been given many games.

    Havn't a clue why Vargas and Isla were left out, they have to come back in as well as Joey. Like or loathe him, we are better with him in the team. Isla could have given some protection to Furlong if he had been included.
     
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