No but two top managers didnt think Mata was good enough defensively. That holds far more water than anything you or I see. They saw him daily during training and we see him during matches. Valencia starts because Rafa cants stay fit for more than 3 consecutive games. van Gaals already said he needs to prove his fitness long term.
Did moyes know what he was doing? Did Mata help Moyes in any way? I love the guys but two managers don't think he is up to it.
Right, so it's the defensive merits that count for our number ten. That's cleared that up then. How about the attacking merits? Or the technical merits? Or the passing merits? All of which Mata is on a different planet when compared to Fellaini. The reason van Gaal doesn't play Rafael is because he doesn't rate him. Nothing to do with anything else at all. He thinks Valencia is better. As you rate Rafael is this also something you blindly accept?
It is and guess what. Weve done more than most with it. What were you expecting this season? Honestly. My guess is you fully expected instant results and possibly the title. At least to be in the race.
Exact same argument applies to Moyes as it does Van Gaal. Yet one should be ridiculEd but the other we should respect? Btw I bet if you asked Mourino if he would have Fellaini or Mata, you have no idea which he'd choose but chances are it would be Mata. That's the point. Also Mourinho doesn't spout on about possession football. He didn't want mata bcos he wants a functional team. If you bang on about possession football then you play Mata. Your whole argument is full of contradictions.
I was expecting an improvement in our performance and a convincing top 4 finish. I also always want my team to aspire to winning football with a good performance but I'm a purist when it comes to football. That really isn't too much to expect quite frankly.
Possession doesnt work of your players dont put the shift in. Each has a responsibilty and a job to do. The fact is two of the worlds most successful managers dont think he is up to the job.
But you said we play possession football bcos we keep the ball so the opposition can't have it. So why the fck do you need a number 10 for his defensive merits???? Listen to yourself man!!!
It's no different. The argument is how you never once took the enormity of the job into consideration when Moyes took over yet now you do. If what van Gaal thinks of how good a defender he is when assessing Mata then we definitely 100% have the wrong manager in charge.
There's where you are wrong. It is too mich to accept in just one seasin with so much change. I asked page to name any side who has gone through as much as us in recent years. He couldn't because there isnt one. Now van Gaal could have come in amd stuck to a classic fergie style of play. Direct, wide counter attacking stuff. Kt would have worked to a degree (better than moyes did but not as good as fergie). We would have become Arsenal. Also rans and nothing more. Van gaals style will serve us well for years to come. Future managers will ne able to adapt quickly and get results because it's a style that on a basic level is shared across the world (bar england).
Go ahead and name the side who had 100% possession. And there's plenty of number 10s who are well known for putting a shift in and getting stuck into the defensive side of things.
What??? If you didnt want our performances to improve then why did you want Moyes out??? It wasn't an unreasonable expectation on my part - at all. You claimed I wanted the title. When I say, no all I want is a top 4 finish and better performance than last season you say that's too much to expect???? Van Gaal's style has to change or he is finished at United AND in England. And no no no no no it is NOT shared across the world. Van Gaal's style of play is a million miles away from ANY manager you care to name in Spain, Italy, France, Germany. Not one manager.
You eally dont like the fact I back van Gaal but didnt back Moyes do you Probably because most lf you backed Moyes while I knew from very early on that he was gone amd was noy good enough.
Hes going nowhere. The glazers are more than happy right now according to reports. The players are behind him and hes still involved in the battle for 4th. This time last year we were 10 points of 4th and involved in some of the worst United performances seen. Rather be where we are now complaining about a tough run in while we still hold all the cards than where we were last season. The performances are miles better too. Though a work in progress. What about you?
So let me get this right. We have 70% possession but rather than use Mata to add creativity during that 70% you're worried about him tracking back for the 30% we don't?? Btw mata does put a shift in. That is NOT why Mourinho didn't want him. Mourinho wants his players to help out defensively. That is NOT the same as saying Mata walks around doing fck all which is what you're making out. Mata runs but he likes to do so in midfield and the opposition half. That is what I want from my number 10 when we have 70% possession.
