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Simply not good enough and...

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by ELLERS, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. Madrid_Ranger

    Madrid_Ranger Well-Known Member

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    We are not good enough and that it that. There is no argument about this.
    As for the Chelsea fan, well do you really care?
     
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  2. Swords Hoopster.

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    Like it :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    If Ramsey looks pale to you then its time for a trip to Specsavers
     
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  4. simonstainrod

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    Was shocked to see Bobby Z not starting with Austin upfront. In a must win game for us. Shocking starting line up. But anyone can see we're the worst equipped team in the PL. Harry bailed out cos he could see what was coming. But it was his squad in the first place. So I blame him totally. Face facts lads, we're going to have to rebuild in the summer and ship out all the dead wood that's been collecting over the last 3 or 4 years and hope we can come back up again.
     
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  5. QPRoma

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    Totally deflated by the lack of quality, passion, acumen, strategy,tactics....

    We might be going down but let's do it with honour.
     
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  6. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12
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    I could see what. Ramsey was doing...Pardew thought we would play hoofball to OBZ, so we put a tricky footballing team out, so Taarbs for Bobby..now that was worth a shout....But SWP?????

    However when we went a goal down the confidence went and we fell apart.
    The OBZ Charlie axis gives the team confidence, That is what Ramsey took from them today...

    I would like to know the truth about Isla and Vargas.....Furlong is a great prospect but this is not doing him any good at all.

    Oh by the way.....I really think these last. Three matches would have a little different out come if Joey had been playing...he is a great on field team motivator....as shown by Clint as well. Attitudes change when they play
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    We are beginning to resemble the Wolves team that went down three years ago, they replaced McCarthy with a good black coach / assistant manager who was never really in with a chance and the team basically folded in the final three months. He was dealt a bum hand and they dropped straight down to League One.

    Ramsey has really got the short straw thanks to Redknapp's fairy story about his knees (anyone notice he still hasn't had the operation yet?) He's trying his best but that squad is as piss-poor as two years ago and our youth is woefully short of quality as he has found out now. It's going to be a slow painful demise and I doubt we'll reach 30 points this season...
     
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  8. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    (anyone notice he still hasn't had the operation yet?)

    The last of many interviews he has made since leaving he stated that it was not as serious as they first thought and now may not need an operation? The stupid presenters were saying how relieved they were that it wasn't serious. He will be looking to get back in the game because his wife is bored of him at home.

    I guess that gives us the answer we all knew.
     
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  9. RoyalOakRanger

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    The thing about Bobby is that remarkably he has looked as fit as I have seen him in recent matches. I thought he must have been injured not to start yesterday. Playing Adel behind Charlie was a waste of time. Adel roams around all over the place and confuses the hell out of everyone. I would have played him on the left. He played in that position at Burnley and had a decent game. For all his flaws he is a skilful player and can beat a man.

    I think Joey has been our best player this season. Stupid thing at Hull and a 3 match ban per season is part of the Joey package I am afraid. Still the only leader in the team though. He will start against Everton.
     
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  10. sheffordqpr

    sheffordqpr Well-Known Member

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    Several points
    1) No passion in the defeat yesterday at all. This, for me is the worst thing. I we go down, let's go down fighting FFS!!!!
    2) Ramsey is a decent enough chap, but cannot cut it at this level
    3) Joey getting a 3 match ban when we needed him most is tantamount to desertion (I blame him 90% for our predicament).
    4) HR left us when he knew we were ****ed
    5) Our defence has been almost non existent
    6) Taraabt is a wasted talent. He goes down so easily. He must be the only footballer with a cauliflower arse!
    7) Charlie? Not sure if I believe the hype anymore.
     
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  11. awjm

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    To be fair, HR (who is supposed to be experienced) made more changes from game to game than CR.
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    The most worrying thing i saw yesterday was when they showed the positions of Palace and QPR on the January 3rd. Im not talking Palace, just us. WE had 19 points and on March 14th we had 22 points.

    Harry really left us in the sh@t, Harry spent a lot of money to create a disjointed team and when he knew it was not going to work he jumped ship to save face. He brought in the wrong players and alienated others. Levi knew at Spurs that Redknapp was finished so he got rid. He was always trying to chase past history thinking he could re create the success he had at Spurs and Pompey (FA cup). Remember when Harry wanted to sign Wayne Bridge? That should have told us something then? Then came Niko/Defoe/Crouch/Ferdinand/ and others that i have forgot about.

    I remember the countless Saints fans and that Spurs poster who identified this long before we did. At the time i thought it was sour grapes but on reflection they were right he was going to take us down. Only he jumped rather than face the press. Yet he still left a parting shot 'i would have kept them up, for sure' . The truth is that we are in this mess because of him and TF.

    I said after the play off final that we should have got rid of Harry because of his failings in a weak Championship. TF should have got rid and started with a fresh face but decided to stick with harry because he is media orientated. What ever looks good, TF will go for. He should remember the saying about 'judging a book'.

    I like TF but sadly once again he failed with the manager and is failing again with Ramsey. I won't go back on what i said about Ramsey but the more i watch our team under him the more i see it failing. Good coach but not so good manager. It's too late to start changing now because whoever comes in still has our uncommitted team to work with.

    We were all told that after the last disasters in the Premiership that it would not happen again yet once again we are back with the same problems.

    Take Joey Barton we all remember the Man City game and his sending off which could have cost us relegation? Well after all his Karma classes and intellectual understanding of philosophy, just when you need him most he gets himself sent off again for an unnecessary incident which he gets a three match ban for. What does tell us? Look back at the lack of Striker cover for nearly 3 seasons now! The Remy situation? Never in a million years would he have gone to Scum if i someone with brains were in charge. The list is endless...Ferdinand, SWP, Zarate, Adel, Stadium, Training ground, kit, badge, FFP. Even the stupid idea of moving fans from the lower loft to ruin a home end atmosphere.

    Once again too many mistakes have been made and the people at the top need to act or F'off and i will watch my club in the lower leagues.
     
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  13. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    I really do worry that this time we'll just drop straight through the Championship, one of the FFP penalties is a transfer embargo, the only plus side is we won't be bringing in more has-beens. It's a bleak outlook...
     
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  14. Ciarrai_Abu

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    The future is blue and white, the future is ****e.
     
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  15. GoldhawkRoad

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    There's always a silver lining. It's a decent drive down the A3 when we play at Portsmouth...

    We are in a big period of uncertainty - FFP which could lead to exclusion from the league and consequent law suits, cost of training ground to say nothing of a new stadium, need for a new manager, another blood transfusion of players likely. It will be interesting to hear Tony Fernandes's intentions once we're relegated, but if he's sensible he won't say much until we know where we are with the Football League
     
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  16. rangercol

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    Superb rant and hard to disagree with.
     
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  17. sheffordqpr

    sheffordqpr Well-Known Member

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    It'll all be over by 12th April. Even Fester will finish above us. We will be relegated as the bottom club. I'm finding it really hard to have any pride in the team. I never thought I'd say that.
     
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  18. QPR Oslo

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    Drama Queens.
     
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  19. sheffordqpr

    sheffordqpr Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, realists. If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything. What, in your opinion is going to save us?
     
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  20. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12
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    the only thing that is going to save us is not giving up.
    But that starts with the players...they play we get behind them.

    So lets see
     
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