Hi Ristac, This isn't a pop at you though it may sound like it. Its just a pop in genaral You make it sound like Cellino just trousered the money for Ross.He didn't it went into the clubs bank account and is used for the running of the club which was in a financial mess. As Josh put it very well a few weeks ago, people make assumptions about whats going on and suddenly those assumptions become fact. To get to your other points about cellino: Buying ground back: Yes he was gung ho saying he'd buy it back but I believe there are valid reasons for not buying currently. Call me naive. But its not a big issue fr me anyway whether we own the ground or not. It would be preferable but many companies lease major assets and buildings. Poor quality coaches. Agree 100% my major gripe with Cellino Questionable Loan signings. I believe this crop is as good or better than any we've had since returning to championship Lets look at them one by one Del Fabro - Great signing if signed permanently. Otherwise pointless as he will get little game time this season. Little risk either way Bamba - nothing needs be said Adryan - He obviously has ability but I think he's one of those that will never fulfil it. Was worth a try but hasn't worked Benedicic - Talented young player like Del Fabro but been injured so no judgement can be made Montenegro - Another young player not seen enough of him. Clearly not rated by Redfearn Ngoyi - Injured Cani - This one I see as the most pointless, haven't seen anything of him but from all accounts not very good The great thing is with the exception of Bamba they are all young players and we have an option to buy. few of them expected to see much game time this season. If they work out great if not, no great risk taken. In any case it is Salerno scouting these players not Cellino. of field distractions - Agree could do without them £20m investment - Dependant on GFH investing as well. Don't know whats happening nor do you And It is just pure coincidence that the upturn in results occured while he's away. Redfearn stumbled on a system that works with these players. And many of the optimists on here we're predicting that the team would come good given time to gel. Looks like thats happening. You don't mention the good things he's done. Saving us from certain admin under GFH, No one else did. Sorting out the finances. Cutting back on the staff I couldn't believe how many people were working for the club. And on the field of play getting rid of the old journeymen and signing young players with a future whether they work out or not. I'm not 100% happy with him but believe he's doing more good than bad and until proven otherwise or a serious investor comes in I'm happy to give him time
How much do you think Cellino has spent so far? How much is his asset now worth if he was to sell it? He isn't the fecking messiah, he is however a very naughty boy and he will do jail time in 2016.
With reg And that is why I dislike him, he has been too quick to make promise after promise and statement after statement that have proved to be wrong/false/lies (take your pick). With regards to the £20m what did Cellino say at the time, the court case to ban him is not important, him managing to negotiate the debt with GFH is far more important. He came out of the meeting saying it was a success and that £20m will be pumped into the club, that isn't a rumour, Cellino said it himself so where is it? He says things at just the right time to gain the fans trust, to disguise the short falls, he talks the talk and as much as you can say he has put millions in there is no proof one way or the other. Maybe the amount he has put in has been recouped with interest with the streamlining of the club and sales, releases and cheaper players. Cellino has done what any business man could have done, cut costs, reduced a wage bill, sold the clubs greatest asset at the time in Ross and renegotiated a loan to the clubs favour. His money saved us at the time from the incompetence of GFH but so did Bates and his cash once-upon-a-time, then Bates made sure he got his investment back with massive interest. I was grateful at the beginning that Bates money came to the rescue but it proved to be a bad long term move, I was grateful of Cellino at the start but already I can see this is not going to be kind to us.
He has spent whatever it cost him to buy the club. No more or less. No Idea how much his asset is worth now, do you? I would imagine a lot more, would you rather it was a lot less? Never said he was the messiah, but if GFH hadn't gone quick then the club would be in real trouble
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I would be willing to wager that so far the increase in asset value, plus income from transfers, gates, tv and merchandise means he won't have put a penny in if he sold tomorrow. Yes he might have saved us, but we will never know if another owner would have come in. One certainty, he fecked our season between August and November by idiotic appointments and interfering in team affairs.
The £6k debt falls to LUFC, the damages result from an article in our program whilst he was running the club.
Can completely understand why people dislike him, but like I said, to date I believe he has done more good than harm. I don't know where the £20m is do you? Maybe its been invested already. Maybe they're waiting til summer when we can buy players. Maybe its all bullshit as you say. I have never said he put millions in, see my reply to Glory. I hope he makes billions out of the club cos that will have meant success on the field. The sale of Ross was the greatest bit of transfer business this club has ever done. All the things he's done you see as a negative to increase his wealth I see as a positive the secure the finances of the club. Can't it be both? But the real test is improvement on the pitch as you and glory have been saying all season the league table and points total don't lie. Well right now its looking like an improvement on last season
Over the moon we are safe, enjoying the wins and upturn in results, my opinion over Cellino hasn't changed
Someone else was interested in buying the club but they turned out to be publicity seeking tinpot local businessmen without a pot to piss in between them plus a Scouse plastic gangster whose name escapes me. While they were ****ing about spouting bollocks about having the club's best interests at heart and trying to raise a few pennies with a whip round in stepped Cellino, and thank **** he did otherwise we'd have gone under with GFH. There are no local businessmen with the necessary wedge anymore.
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Why, is he an ugly fecker as well? Btw you haven't made an excellent post in 5686 attempts you have made so far.
Not if they had your brains! And my big brother is bigger than your big brother! Nah, na, na na nahhhh.