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Is Grayson a Brian Clough without a Peter Taylor?

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by salonika73, Jul 8, 2011.

  1. salonika73

    salonika73 New Member

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    Many people appear to be wondering about Grayson's ability to spot the right players we need, and blend them into a team.

    For 35 years, I was an excellent man-manager, team-builder, etc and my team delivered some great results....but I often had to rely on my team to find new people cos I WAS RUBBISH at finding new blood. But when my team brought someone else in, I was very good at managing them.

    My point is, I actually think that Simon might be in the same position. I think he IS a good manager. The real issue may be that Simon might be Brian Clough in disguise....he needs to find a 'Peter Taylor' to work beside him, and get the right guys in.

    Maybe we should stick with Grayon, but sack Snodin and bring in a replacement to do what Simon struggles with?
     
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  2. tommylion

    tommylion Active Member

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    I thought coco took care of all of that for you....he's got his soddin hand in everything else!
     
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  3. leeds60

    leeds60 Well-Known Member

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    yOU COULD BE RIGHT but he did find Schmichel profit £1m
    Gradel possible profit os sale £2mhe has not lost much on his transfer dealings the trouble is he can only shop at poundstrecher!
     
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  4. coalville-white

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    The issue with Grayson is not that he cannot spot a good player but that the chairman will not pay the wages that they are asking for. We are looking for Premiership players but only willing to pay league 1 wages. Players would rather sit in the reserves on very good money rather than play week in week out for lesser wages.
     
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  5. Que Somma Somma

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    Grayson isnt fit to look at Brian Clough's boots. Signs 1 good player for every 5 bad ones. tactics are questionable, and plays Painter rather than RM or the better DS
     
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  6. Best Fans

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    I get your point. Obviously he's not and won't be in the league of Clough - although he's probably a nicer and less arrogant person - but he does need someone to help him with transfers. I think that Gwym Williams is our scout? But he's not a good one.
     
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  7. Whiteyorkist

    Whiteyorkist Active Member

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    Maybe the secret to been a succesful manager is drinking copious amounts of alcohol. Look at Clough and the red nosed bloke over the pennines.
     
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    DirtyLeeds Well-Known Member

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    In that case I could well be the man for the job, where do I sign ?
     
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  9. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    What's Williams done wrong?
     
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  10. Simon21-LUFC

    Simon21-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    His tactics are fine, playing 4-5-1 was a masterstroke, getting the best out of our 4 best players. Paynter is Becchio's backup, McCormack and Somma are 2 completely different kinds of striker. Clearly it's you who's tactically clueless.
     
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  11. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    But don't forget QSS has a 'diploma' in football management, Simon.
     
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  12. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    yea lol no point in debating with him then because he's obviously right
     
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  13. Whiteyorkist

    Whiteyorkist Active Member

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    Have you seen is diploma yet? I'm still waiting for proof! I'm presuming he's misplaced it!
     
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  14. Best Fans

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    Maybe nothing, but if he's the scout then surely he has something to do with our signings.
     
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  15. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Grayson gets it wrong with a few but they are not costing us anything apart from wages. I would judge him on that if ever he splashes out £2 million on a player and they fail.
     
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  16. Best Fans

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    Yeah but wages account for a lot. The combined wages of George McCartney, Billy Paytner, Collins, Bruce, Livermore, Bannan, McSheffrey etc. will have been money that could have been invested in a really good signing instead.
     
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  17. salonika73

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    I still think that Simon's been saying for the last 18 months ..."let's find a good defensive midfielder"...and we're still waiting. Yes, half the problem is probably that we can't afford the one's which fit the bill (on Bates's wage structure), but I do think that if scouting is Gwyn Williams's job, then he's got to scout within the parameters his bosses give him. And that fact that

    a) we've got in a few that haven't worked
    b) not found one that dos work

    surely means that Williams should move over??
     
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  18. billyboy

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    with leeds it allways boils down to money and pappa smurf wont spend owt
     
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  19. Spanish white

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    Billy is right :)

    If you have to shop in the whoppy isle in Asda for sure the food want always taste nice.........

    The comparrison to Clough is crazy....

    I think we have too many who expect miracles.....its not going to happen and we dont have the money some clubs do...we will have to get promotion the hard way....
     
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  20. Clivetime

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    Testing.
     
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