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I hate the premier league

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by awjm, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    just posting to see if anyone feels the same. I hate the premier league. It's a completely ****ed up league. I enjoyed watching us in lower leagues a lot more.

    My main issues:

    • **** refs (****ter than ever these days).
    • Teams built with highly expensive players who are meant to be more skilful yet somehow need diving and cheating as a major feature of their game.
    • Top teams getting preferential treatment?
    • Diving not being clamped down upon.
    • Not enough Young British players being given a chance (I think there should be a cap on how many home nations players you can have on the pitch at any given time).
    • Flagrant mass investment in players by clubs with rich owners, making it an unfair league.
    • A culture or prevalent psychological factor where referees (who enjoy the fact that they get to work with household name celebrity players) too often give the benefit of doubt to teams who are not chasing the game or not the underdog. E.g. If a bottom table team are losing 1-0 in the second half against a top club who look comfortable in the game, the ref will see many incidents as a result of the underdog or losing team being "desperate" and they will not make decisions one by one, without bias.
    • Newspapers and media only covering the top teams.
    What would you add?
     
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  2. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    We keep f*cking losing...
     
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  3. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    That as well!
     
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  4. bc7

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    No need to add anything, spot on.
     
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  5. Swords Hoopster.

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    Then there is something wrong with you, Sir
     
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    I'd like to see 1 appeal per team,per game.All this bollocks about it would take too long,and stop the flow of the game infuriates me.What with players receiving treatment on the pitch and timewasting,these take up much more time.The technology is there so why not use it?There's so much at stake these days,and the officials are simply missing to many vital decisions!Other sports use a review system,and in my opinion have benefitted greatly from doing so.Whether it's for an unjust sending off,a penalty claim or whatever,lets help the officials out and get these crucial decisions right!Really pissed off today,we should've had 2 certain pens and to get neither was a disgrace.The 4th official could have a screen where he just has to check a decision,it really would take a matter of seconds.This is huge business now and peoples livelihoods we're talking about,so get it in!Rant over,i'm angry today!
     
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  7. QPR Oslo

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    We're not good enough for it. TF and Co have supplied the money but not the right managerial decisions.

    And results in Europe the last few years confirm the PL Is over rated apart the amount of money in it.
     
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  8. awjm

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    I think you're confused, poor fellow. I think you mistake me saying I ENJOYED watching us in the lower leagues for saying I don't want success or want us to be relegated.

    But honestly, if QPR became a club like Chelsea and Man City (buying success, having an almost all foreign cast of expensive, established players from foreign leagues, catering for tourists, etc.), I'd honestly stop going. That's not what I want our club to be. It wouldn't be me turning my back on QPR, it would be QPR being destroyed by business and commerce. I'd totally be up for a FC QPR in that scenario.
     
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  9. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    On a more serious note, the PL is fast becoming an 'Us & Them' league which can be carved up into 'Champions League' section, 'Europa League' section, 'Mid-Table Obscurity' section and 'Relegation' section.

    This 'League within a League' prevalence is making the rich richer and basically guaranteeing that any club which rises to challenge, such as Southampton, will have all their best players snapped up to (a) Improve the big clubs' squads and (b) Snuff out the progress of any club rising to challenge the Champion's League teams stranglehold on the game.

    FFP, an oxymoron if ever there was one, merely enhances this imbalance and ensures that any modern-day Abramovich could never throw their billions at an 'unfashionable' club in the way Chelsea and Man City rose to their dominating status today.

    Personally, I like the complete unpredictability and competitive nature of the Championship and look forward to the rollercoaster it provides us with from next season. It's a bit more honest, blood and guts football and, if we're honest with ourselves, it's our true level.

    Just give us a manager that can produce a decent footballing side that is competitive in ALL competitions and may even give us that QPR equivalent of rocking-horse sh*t, a cup run...
     
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  10. Star of David Bardsley

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    There's a major incentive to give the rub of the green to big sides for referees. Managers nowadays kick up a fuss and influence the decisions on who referees big games. Major league games and cup finals will invariably feature the top five or six teams and it's detrimental to the career of a referee to be on the wrong side of one of these.

    Obviously the PL is the place to be and we forget how turgid the lower leagues can be as we look on romantically but there are some major positives:

    - more games
    - cheaper tickets
    - "proper" fans only
    - more old-fashioned grounds (and even still some terracing)
     
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  11. Swords Hoopster.

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    Generally folk start getting nostalgic about the Championsh*t when their team gets nearer and nearer the trapdoor. If their team was safe in midtable they wouldn't give that god-awful league a second thought.

    AWJM, your defence mechanism has kicked in. Sooper's did about four months ago
     
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  12. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    I'd also like to see this appeal system. Maybe more than one, though. 2 appeals per game wouldn't destroy a match. But I think the key to getting more respect for the referees is in making them more human, transparent and accountable. This would be good because the referees would know they'd need to improve and the leagues would also make sure they provide the best referees possible and meet a certain standard.

    Don't be fooled by the papers. The cash Tony has splashed is still nothing compared to the big boys. Our spending in transfers has comparitively been small. It's just our wages that have been silly, and even those aren't anything like bigger teams. But that's the problem with Tony... he's a wanna be top club owner who doesn't know how to do it properly.

    I think we are in complete agreeance. Sadly, I don't think either of us expect any major changes. Money talks.

    I'd never thought about your first point, that big clubs can influence things like that. Can they really have that kind of influence?
     
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    I don't think we're in a position to complain on the money side - we're one of the worst offenders!

    However, I do share the sentiment that its more enjoyable in the Championship and I personally won't care if we go down. More games too.
     
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    Explain how the Championship is awful.

    A high level of skill can be fun to watch but, ultimately, a game is not entertaining because of how much skill is involved but because of how open, competitive and hard faught it is. I've watched some great conference games and some **** champions league games.

    I had some great times watching QPR in what is now league 1. You think I'm nostalgic but it's funny how I actually posted on here about how I'd miss the Championship on both occasions of being promoted in recent years.

    Your problem is that your ego rules your life too much and you actually make it a priority to show yourself as better than other people on a small message board. Sort yourself out.
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    Officially, no. But United did it for years complaining about certain officials god forbid a few decisions didn't go their way and Mourinho fakes an aneurysm even if a correct call is made against Chelsea so I can't believe it has no effect on those who choose the officials and frankly want a quiet life.
     
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  16. Star of David Bardsley

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    Do ignore Swords (not just on this thread :azn:). He's a foreigner as as such only gets to watch us if we're in the top tier.
     
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    Just wish the refs were better, shocking ref today
     
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  18. awjm

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    Yeah. I think referees need the RIGHT kind of protection but they get the wrong kind, which is to make them untouchable, unaccountable and unblameable. They need to be protected from influence and made to feel more confident about making the right decisions. Do this by making them feel they're allowed to be human and possibly by having help from technology, new rules or more officials.
     
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    It won't make any difference to you Swords, I imagine you are so intrinsically wedged in your armchair you'll require pall-bearers to take you to a match...:grin:
     
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  20. awjm

    awjm Well-Known Member

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    As I said to another poster, the money nonsense Fernandes has gotten up to is no where near the scale of the really big clubs. But I don't like the way Tony does business for us and believe me... I'm not his biggest fan. I don't hate him but I think he's got the wrong idea about what QPR should be and he's made some really bad decisions. He's got stars in his eyes and I think he may only be coming around now, after years of dreadfully captaining the ship.
     
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