On your first point SB is trying to change that now. Liam Cooper as an example had the talent but went off the rails. If he had not got mixed up with the likes of Bullard and lost his way he may well have still been at the club. But now we have the platform to hopefully have some local talent in the squad. Conor Townsend looks certain for next season and Max Clark is another who is more than good enough. Rome was not built in a day though. When i look back over the years and see the local kids with talent who went to other clubs as Hull City were in dire straits(not the group) says it all.
I think theres more "locals" that have represented England at Rugby than there as at football.Pearson, Barmby, then im struggling,
I really hope your right, but a glance at other similar PL clubs suggests their chances aren't great.
I suppose its personal opinion, you either want your club to be the best it can be regardless of who plays for them and how much money you spend or you like the idea that local kids grow up watching a team full of players they identify and connect with, knowing someday that could be them. I'm not saying either is correct and your right in saying that its more a reflection on the state of the game than the clubs themselves.
I think it is the same anywhere. If you are good enough then of course it makes sense for clubs to use them. One good example of lost talent that stands out is one Alan Shearer. He finally made it @ Newcastle of course but had to start elsewhere after being released. You tell me any club that would not want it's locals to play for the club.? Of course they have to be good enough.
There you go again comparing football with rugby league. If Hull City were playing in the lower leagues I would say that we would have the same percentage of local lads playing for us as FC have today. I doubt if we would have one from Australia who has a warrant out for his arrest though, FC win that one. How do you know the majority of City pass holders don't live in Hull? Where do you get your information from? Also FC may have played more local lads against Leeds on Thursday then we've played in the last decade ( which is up for debate) but what was the score? And didn't Lee 'last orders please' Radford say they were not up to it?
Dispute that Castro! What is the highest transfer fee paid by FC or Rovers ? I doubt if they've ever paid more for a player then City have, even when we were skint. We were paying £40k for Waggy when HKR were breaking club records paying £6k for Roger Millward. Agree the RL clubs did pay big wages to bring in the Aussies and Kiwis on short term contracts but I don't believe either club have ever topped City in the transfer market.
He's had plenty of time to get back on the rails but up to now he hasn't so perhaps he was released because he wasn't good enough to play at the standard City were at? Meaning it wasn't a Allams led conspiracy at all.
When we played Hatlepool in 2002 (in the bottom division) we had no local players in the squad, the closest was Steve Melton (Lincoln), so not sure what your basing that on. Your final point is fair, perhaps success is more important than local people representing your local team, you only have to look at Hull FC's abysmal record in the last two decades to see it doesn't equate to success, although Wigan and Leeds may disagree with that.
I think your probably right on this, Joe Westerman was FC's highest ever transfer fee at the time (2011) and that was still only around £150,000.
By 2002 City were just beginning the climb back up the FL ladder. We had plenty of local players during the D*lan years. Off the top of my head, and some pre date D*lan...........Steve Wilson, Dean Windass, Gary Hobson, Adam Lowthorpe, Mark Greaves, Neil Buckley, Nicky Brown, Linton Brown ( Driffield, local enough), Neil Allison, Paul Ollson, Pete Skipper, Andy Saville, Pete Daniel, Roger De Vries, Gareth Roberts, Craig Norrie, Adam Bolder, Paddy Greenwood, Paul Haigh, Ian Davies........feel free to ad to the list.
Thank you, City paid more then that some 20 years earlier for the likes of Pete Swan, Ian McPharland and Trevor Philips.
Pretty sure I said in the last decade, but never mind. Rodger De Vries taught me at school, we used to think it was incredible that an ex Hull City player was our teacher, he hated talking about it for some reason though!
But in the last decade we have been playing at a higher level which under lines my point. We had Windass and Barmby in the team, plus we tried Wiseman, Featherstone, Cullam and Cooper but all of them were not, sadly, up to standard. My point was if we ( City) were in Div 1 or 2 we would have as many local lads in the team as you say FC have. You are also forgetting that football is a much bigger sport then RL so to compare the two as like for like is a little unfair.
Ged Dunn was my PE teacher. All he did was bang on about playing for Great Britain, Rovers and the being voted 100th greatest try on a video of the 100 greatest try's. He use to wear the most ridiculous short shorts even in the middle of winter.
So was Paul Haigh, and Paul Anderson, Hull born but sold to Liverpool. More recently Scott Wiseman played for England Under 21's whilst still at City and we have a couple of young local lads in the Development squad who are internationals.
Got it wrong. We paid £93,000 for Nick Deacy before Rovers paid £72,500 for George Fairbairn which I believe was more than City had ever paid for anyone apart from Deacy. Fairbairn was a world record at the time, nearly doubling the previous record set by FC. I remember at the time there was a lot of fuss about rugby going down the road football was in paying ever higher transfers that clubs would have trouble paying.
