OT, Channel 4 Documentary on Marajuana

If weed was regulated/decriminalised people could more easily get hold of milder strains and not the mind-altering, dusted, massive levels of THC skunk stuff. In Amsterdam cafes, and presumably now in the States, you can actually get menus that tell you all about each kind and what strength they are and the kind of high they'll give you.

 

I'm of the view that Govt has no place controlling the populus via legislation when it comes to what we CHOOSE to consume.

Their place is to educate not legislate.

As long as people make informed choices, they can take what they like for me.

 

Tend to agree, but it's a reliant on other people having more than a couple of brain cells rattling around to make those 'informed choices' (experience tells me the majority don't ) and also having an NHS creates a problem. Our taxes fund this so what about people who choose to continue consuming 'bad substance x' (not necessarily a drug, could be junk food, although that's similar to drugs in some ways) against the advice of a doctor and put an unnecessary strain on the resources of the NHS.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...an-any-other-drug-expert-claims-10084082.html

 

Well Said TobeLe

Prohibition never ever EVER works. In Saudi Arabia, they chop your head off for it, but... they are still decapitating people every year, because even the threat of beheading doesn't stop people.

It is also a fact that prescription drugs kill more people than heroine cocaine and weed put together.
But there is huge profits made from prescription drugs, weed, if legal, can be grown at home and there is no profit in that. As for the heroine and cocain, well the banksters are the ones running that trade anyways. HSBC were caught laundering the cash for Mexican and Columbian drug cartels. So, no point legalising those either as the banksters make far too much money from prohibition.

 

This is a complicated one, imo.
If it seems that drug use is an identifiable cause of anti-social behaviour, then its effects go beyond those of the user, and it does become the concern of government. Remembering that, in principle at least, government is supposed to reflect the concerns of, and implement the requirements of, the whole of society.

 

I don't actually know anyone who's developed any sort of mental issues with long-term use

 

That article says Hash is not all that harmful.
They've obviously not read the stuff he posts on here.

 

It rests on everyone else behaving in a reasonable and responsible way towards other people which plenty of people aren't capable of. If this was the case we wouldn't even need a government. The reason we have one is because a lot of human beings exist in a state of perpetual conflict.

 

Coce and Heroine cause problems because of the crime related to the gangs that deal it and the need for the money to buy it.
Make it legal will make it affordable, and take the trade away from the gangs.

For example in Holland when they legalised weed back in the day, the major dealers were given licenses to open coffee shops. So they moved into legit tax paying ventures instead of gang related activities

 

Have known a few who've become withdrawn and stupefied by it but nobody who's had a proper freak-out. I have known people who've been seriously affected by class As

 

@Saint Re anti social. Erm.. booze?

 

This is why I'd be uneasy about buying an eighth or whatever from some random in town. Wouldn't want my cash funding crime and helping to perpetuate their nefarious behaviour/business.

 

In terms of the effect of the drug then that only really means alcohol.

It's only an issue with addictive drug users in terms of the cash they need to fund their habits, which invaribaly leads to crime, but the root cause is the cost. The reason for the cost is the legislation.

 

The people I know that have had issues started smoking the heavy stuff in their teens, best left till you finish school and have your **** together

 

Well, I said it might not be a popular view, but I know of at least 3 friends who have.
I'm not saying these problems were life threatening, but certainly made their behaviour erratic and irrational. On the other hand, I know one person who is a total arsehole when drunk, and much better stoned. Or just sober, tbh.
This is one of those issues that is going to split people into two camps, but I'm just passing on my experience, not passing judgement.

 

This ^

 

If someone who sells weed buys a gun with the proceeds, that has absolutely nothing to do with the weed or your cash and more likely more to do with legislation forcing that seller to operate in such an environment. If it was legal, you'd be supporting the local economy

 

I agree with saint here. People shouldn't smoke pot and assume that it's harmless, as it isn't.

It DOES cause paranoia, it CAN cause psychological problems and it DOES make you lethargic.

It also DOES make you consume KitKats....

I've known a few who it made an impact on shall we say, one lad from my youth ended up in the nuthouse (PC I know)

 

Listen to this guy, LEAP, Law Enforcement Officers Against Prohibition. Makes a lot of sense.