more positive things; 1. whenever you write positive things about liveprool utd fans will turn up... its nice to know that the sun will rise the the morning and that a manc can never say away from a liverpool article lol 2. comolli is actually quite open once you get to talk to him.http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/comolli-on-adam-and-transfers
Neither you nor I was at the bar where the Gerrard incident took place, neither you nor I was in the court during the case so all of our information is secondhand. However he did stand trial and the matter was dealt with according to the law. But according to your logic, you leave no option but to conclude that all united fans are immoral to support a cheating player who cuckolds his own brother.
I did. I just tried to cut it short before the thread decended into chaos and all the name calling crap which would have followed. Plus we would have had 'thread closed' by now.
I am sure that you as well as many others have seen the CCTV footage of Gerrard repeatedly hitting the DJ as have I. Gerrard and his mates clearly surrounded him and it shows that Gerrard hit him without being hit first. In court Gerrard told the jury that he hit the DJ because he believed he was going to hit him first. Oh well that's ok then! Here you go off scot free. But anyway I think it is a lot more cretinous to cheer on somebody who batters defenceless people than somebody who cheats on his wife.
As far as Gerrard is concerned, you can palce whatever interpritation you like upon a small part of the evidence that was presented by both the prosecution and defence. The legal judgement given ALL of the evidence runs contrary to your biased opinion. The majority of Scousers hold the familly very dear. Giggs did not only dishonour his wife (that happens) but he dishonoured his familly over a long period of time by cuckolding his brother. To continue to support him is, in your words "cretinous".
Are you trying to imply they hold them more dear than others, say Mancs, Yorkshire men, Irishmen ? I didn't see a big out cry after what the press reported as Carroll doing to his brother at the weekend ? This whole Giggs and his sister in law is again based on the press, I sure he did do it, but length of time etc is press talk. After all Giggs is still with his wife so there may be more to it than what's reported in the Sun / NOTW.
So now only scousers honour their families? None of them cheat on them do they not? This is life, human beings are human beings and this happens in every single city and town in the world. Small part of evidence? I saw it all with my own eyes. It was reported that the DJ did not touch Gerrard and on the CCTV you can clearly see Gerrard attacking the man, unprovoked, with several of his friends standing behind him. This is clearly a case of being let off because he is famous. The funny thing is though you lot like to point out that the 'law' in football is biased towards United and they are corrupt blah blah but to suggest it with the law with famous people regarding prison terms etc is ridiculous.
Or it could have something to do with him being a multi millionaire or even alot of what has been reported isn't factual ?
Eric, [BAre you trying to imply they hold them more dear than others, say Mancs, Yorkshire men, Irishmen ? ][/B] I did not say that. If you understand Scouse culture at all then you will not doubt that familly is very important to us. Perhaps, it is a result of the mix of Scottish and Irish clannishness. That does not mean that people from other parts of the country, continent or world do not also value their famillies. I do know that this sense of familly goes very wide and deep in Liverpool. Perhaps that is part of the reason why we often refer to our alliegence to LFC in terms of US and WE. It also gives rise the saying "One Scouser's in trouble, they are all in trouble" ( a general over-statement but you understand the meaning). This whole Giggs and his sister in law is again based on the press, I sure he did do it, but length of time etc is press talk. After all Giggs is still with his wife so there may be more to it than what's reported in the Sun / NOTW. I agree wih you. All famillies have their problems and they should be dealt with behind closed doors. If we can't help then we should keep our noses out of it. But the nature of our press and society these days appears to want to promote all of the dirty washing - sad I only used it to counter MUFCOK trying to identify all Liverpool supporters as "cretinous"
MUFCOK "Small part of evidence? I saw it all with my own eyes. It was reported that the DJ did not touch Gerrard and on the CCTV you can clearly see Gerrard attacking the man, unprovoked, with several of his friends standing behind him." No you didn't. You have absolutely no idea what had ocurred before the video.
This is typical sickly scouser talk. Like saying you are the funniest people in the country. If you honestly believe you are the only city in this country who feel this way then you are as deluded as the whole country makes you out to be. Manchester is in the exact same situation as Liverpool in that we have a large Irish heritage, we are 30 miles apart how the hell are you any different? Also I do believe that any football supporter in the country refers to their team as US and WE. You aren't a special case.
And you don't know what occured with Giggs at all. No evidence whatsoever. It still doesn't stop you lot from claiming you do.
Well to be honest; I can't think of anything that warrants someone to sleep with their sister in law and multiple other women. Punching someone? It's something a lot of people do at some point during their lives. Don't try and make out he's scum for punching a DJ. So what he punched 1 DJ, who got a few stitches and was fine. Chances are he greatly exaggerated events because his lawyer told him it would get him a larger settlement. As Gerrard says, he did it in self defence - From the video I can't see it personally, but you don't know that the DJ wasn't causing trouble earlier on. It's not really in the same bracket as cheating on your wife multiple times, or even wife beating. There are plenty of controversies out there, but it seems there's more than your fair share at Man Utd.
You really have very little understanding of population shifts and demonstarte even less understanding of how societies and culture is formed. If you find us deluded and sickly why visit us?
MUFCOK Come on mate. In all honesty do you believe the legal machinery of the land is going to clear someone of GBH because he is a famous footballer? If he was cleared, it's because the court felt there were mitigating circumstances of some sort. None of us know the details of what happened leading up to the incident that we've seen on video. My opinion of that incident is not sufficiently informed to be of any value- neither is yours. The court's is the only opinion that matters.
But which one is breaking the law? Assault or having an affair? Which one could potentially kill a person? This isn't an argument you can win I am afraid. You try and look at the harmless side of it but people have died from one punch as well. The difference is in all of this is I am not condoning what Giggs did. If Wayne Rooney did what Gerrard did and got away with it there would be uproar from you lot. 'Justice for the DJ' I reckon.
