Oh bless you, all angry on the Internet on a public forum. Unlike you, they claim to want to be inclusive. I want it to live up to its, and my expectations. It's posted on here to invite general debate and discussion. If it wasn't it would just be on their own forums. You're exactly the type of member that embarrasses them. That's what it's got to do with me Tiger.
Not remotely angry, but I've said before.....the Trust is like a trade union......if you don't join you cannot expect it to represent you & you have no say over how it is run
We used to talk about a 'Useless Tool', but I'm dead impressed, since this system change, that I am an 'Active Member' every day! It will be a surprise to her who must be obeyed!
KInell, can you get anything right at all recently? You're a "Well-known member" which, using yours and your kids line of pre teen humour, is spot on. You did a good job there btw, he's funny with his "its my ball, go away" mentality. I wonder if he knows that every time he posts, the decent HCST members cringe and people on the outside wondering if it really is inclusive and wants to genuinely represent all fans all think "Oh, same old ****e as before then".
That's right BUT generally speaking even non members still get the benefits the union fight for. Better wages and conditions etc. despite slagging the union of as a bunch of ****s. It works just like a supporters trust.
Seem to be struggling, to be honest, think I'd rather have stayed active than well known; well known is much over-rated! Do they expect different ****e after ten then?
Then they should call themselves something else, and change the wording in the aims that says they represent Hull City Supporters, to they represent the members. Your post also implies that they should give up trying to encourage new members.
No my post implies that if anyone wishes to have a say in the direction the supporters trust goes then they should join.....if you are not a member than you should have no say in that direction.....this should encourage new members not discourage them .....
I totally disagree. If a group is claiming to represent Hull City Supporters, they need to demonstrate something to support that claim. It's possible to support the principle of a group, yet having reservations about it. A strong group should see constructive criticism and questions as a positive. Any City fan is perfectly entitled to comment on a group that's chosen to claim it represents them. If they don't like that, they need to change their name.
The members of the Trust I'm sure will all be supporters and as such supporters trust is appropriate......they will be representing the views of supporters (maybe not all supporters but still supporters) It's like politics in this country...those who complain the loudest are usually the ones who say they didn't vote as their vote would make no difference.....if you want a say.....join
I think with their aim of - Promote the development of the trust through supporter involvement - Initiate and lead supporter-based social and community initiatives. Make our website – http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com as good as possible, giving news about Hull City and the wider trust and supporter. Set up an easy-to-use forum on the site. Make sure shareholders are kept as up-to-date as possible and consult shareholders on a regular basis. Hold events that shareholders can get involved in. Initiate ideas that will be of interest to fans young and old. Examples could include setting up an on-line club museum, linked up with credit unions to help people save. as only aim 4 then they dont have that as their first or second priority but rather aims 2 and 3 to Lead and facilitate partnership working with Hull City AFC, Hull City Council and other stakeholders - Acquire a stake in Hull City and attain representation on its board in order to exert real supporter influence on the governance of the Club shows what priorities are. for the current board. Grab for power on the back of claiming a majority of supporters. Their first aim should be grow the trust.
We would hope that all fans would benefit from the things we're doing, though obviously only members get to shape what those things are. Growing the membership is obviously a short and long term aim, something that will hopefully get easier as we prove our worth over time. We've just updated our partners page, membership can easily pay for itself - http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/partners/
Seriously? So if a non member raised a pertinent issue, you'd ignore it? I'd suggest reaching out to non members and looking at why they chose not to join could be of benefit in shaping the trust.
Of course we wouldn't ignore it, but non-members obviously don't get chose the committe, attend our meetings, or vote on what we do.
But non members do get to shape what things are, which was the point. I'd suggest talking to non members could even affect who is on the committee. For argument's sake, and I'm not saying this is a valid position, what if it became apparent that a significant number of City fans decided not to sign up because of the actions of one committee member. Would the group ignore that, and keep the same committee, or would those non members have influenced things? Until it can be demonstrated otherwise, it does need to be made clear on the HCST site that they represent their members, and don't have a mandate to speak for Hull City fans.
