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Chan and Sukumaran Within Days Of Being Shot.

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Cyclonic, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    The last minute appeal has just been rejected. According to the court, it had no jurisdiction over a presidential decree. Lawyers now have 14 days to appeal the ruling. It seems that despite this option, which is to be pursued, the executions will beat them to the punch.
     
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    Mr. Suhendroputro a mortician from Cilacap has taken position of 10 coffins for the impending executions. Initially it was thought that 8 people convicted of drug offences and 3 of multiple murder would be shot, but it now seems that 10 will go, all be drug convicted. Mr. Suhendroputro will man a makeshift mortuary tent near the shooting site, where the bodies will be brought to him.
     
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    The 3 Indonesian murders who've been taken off the execution list are to replaced with 2 Nigerians convicted of drug offences. Attorney-general Mr. Prasetyo said that the decision to execute was final.
     
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    Just read that a spokesman for the Indonesian Attorney General's office has stated that the executions will be carried out simultaneously. A team of executors have inspected the site of the shootings and found it not quite ready. From what I gather, it looks as though all 10 prisoners will be shot at the same time. It appears to be growing more grotesque by the minute.
     
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    Barbarism alive and well -state sponsored murder.......... Sad
     
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    Will the first one to hit the target get a cuddly toy or a goldfish in a bag?


    It happens all over the World: Man’s inhumanity to Man.
     
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    "The site is not ready yet"

    The mind boggles.
     
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    I saw a pic of the new shooting range behind the police station where the condemned are to be executed. Sombre. Imagine all 10 standing before 120 riflemen who'll all let rip at once.

    These guys mean business too. Looks as though the prisoners will be taken by APCs and then loaded onto a military transport which will be escorted by Sukhoi fighters for the flight to Java. They are going to a hell of a lot of trouble for a couple of mid-level drug convicts.
     
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    No, it's a fairground. The 120 are just ordinary people who have bought up to 3 goes each There is just one "executioner". Any one who manages to finish off a prisoner, before the executioner does, gets a prize.
     
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    Bali's chief prosecutor, Momock Bambang Samiarso has announced that Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran will be transferred to the site of their execution tomorrow at noon. As hard as it seems to believe, the Kerobokan prison boss Mr. Sudjonggo has said that the men are aware of their impending move to Nusakambangan and are in good spirits.
     
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    The whole handling of the Chan - Sukumaran move was highlighted by the arrival of Indonesian prisoner Zainal Abidin who is to make up one of the 10 to be executed. Whereas the noted two, with the eyes of the world on them were escorted by hundreds of heavily armed personnel, using different types of armoured vehicles, Abidin rolled up in the back of a small van. No fighter escort, no APCs and certainly no fanfare. One was pretty much, who cares, the other a massively staged event.



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    I just lifted this and pasted it.


    The 27 rules for execution by firing squad in Indonesia

    1. Convict is given clean, simple, and white clothing before being taken to a place or location of the implementation of the death penalty

    2. When brought to the place or location of the implementation of the death penalty, the convict can be accompanied by a member of the clergy

    3. The support team is ready at the appointed place two (2) hours before the time of execution of the death penalty

    4. Team shooters have been gathered in preparation at the location of the implementation of the death penalty, one (1) hour prior

    5. Team shooter sets the position and puts the 12 (twelve) rifles in front of the pole position of the implementation of the death penalty at a distance of five (5) meters up to ten (10) feet and back to the prep area

    6. Execution commander reports his team's readiness to prosecutors executor by saying 'report execution of the death penalty is ready'

    7. Execution attorney conducts a final check of death row and the weapons used for the implementation of the death penalty

    8. After the inspection is completed, the prosecutor orders the executing commander calls out 'execute' and then repeats the utterance 'execute'

    9. The execution commander orders the firing squad commander to fill and lock arms ammunition into twelve (12) rifles with three (3) rounds of live ammunition and nine (9) rounds of blanks

    10. The prosecutor orders the commander of the execution squad to bring the convicted man to a position shooting and release his handcuffs and tie his hands and feet to a pillar in a standing, sitting, or kneeling position, unless otherwise specified by the prosecutor

    11. The offender is given a last chance to calm down a maximum of 3 (three) minutes, accompanied by a clergy member

    12. The commander team places a black cloth over the eyes of the covnicted man, unless the convict refuses

    13. Doctors place a black mark on the convict's clothes right over the heart as the place to shoot at. Then the doctor withdraws

    14. The commander reports to the execution prosecutor that the convicted person is ready to receive the death penalty

    15. The execution prosecutor gives the sign/gesture to the commander to begin immediately implementing the shooting of the convict

    16. Commander provides a sign / gesture to the firing squad commander to bring the firing squad to the front position

    17. Execution commander takes his place in front of the right side facing of the firing squad

    18.The execution commander ensures the firing squad is ready to fire

    19. The implementing commander draws a sword as a symbol for the firing squad to aim towards the heart of the convict

    20. The executing commander brandishes the sword forward as a cue to the firing squad to unlock weapons

    21. The executing commander brings down the sword as a gesture to tell the firing squad to perform simultaneous shooting

    22. After shooting is finished the executing commander sheaths his sword as a cue to the firing squad to stand their weapons

    23.The executing commander and doctors check the condition of the convicted person and if the doctor thinks that the convict is still showing signs of life, the prosecutor makes an order to the shooting commander

    24. The executing commander and doctors check the condition of the convicted person and if the convict is still breathing orders that a pistol be put to his temple just above the ear for a final shot

    25. Shooting can be repeated, if according to a doctor's certificate is still signs of life

    26. Execution of the death penalty is declared finished, if the doctor has stated that there are no more signs of life on the convict

    27. Completion of the firing squad and the shooting commander orders its members to remove the magazine and empty their weapons


    I've read that after 24, there is a 10 minute wait before the inspection.
     
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    Heroin addicts certainly don't win. Not condoning capital punishment BUT these people were caught smuggling probably the most dangerous, addictive and damaging drug know to man, in order to make fast money. I have difficulty sympathising with their plight.

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    Oddy, these two people have been the dregs of society. It seems that they were not folks to be crossed in their day. As for the so called rehabilitation, I take it with a grain of salt, maybe they've become better people, maybe not, either way, in their predicament, they're hardly going to say that if eventually released they'd go back to the drug business. But that for me is not the issue, the problem here is the state sanctioned taking of life. I accept that Indonesia has every right to act upon it's own laws, but I don't believe it to be an ethical stand in this day and age, when the abolition of capital punishment is taking a stronger hold across the globe. And this is not a stand I take solely because two of the condemned are Australian. This has been an anathema to me since the hanging of Ronald Ryan in Melbourne in 1967, our last execution.
     
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    Agreed Cyc - capital punishment is a statement of moral bankruptcy.

    Hard labour is what I'd prescribe - make them give something back to society.
     
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    You're a good man Oddy.
     
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    Yes drug dealers/smugglers should be punished but execution is not the way to do it.
     
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    I don't know what's happening behind the scenes in Indonesian Government circles, but their idea of bulldozing over the right of appeal system has ground to a stop. They were keen to do the deeds before the appeals, but not are going to await the outcome of the court process this week. When they take place, these appeals will be done and dusted in a matter of hours, no drawn out affairs. Most of those to be shot have now lodged appeals.
     
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