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Match Day Thread Liverpool v Besiktas

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by astro, Feb 14, 2015.

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Result

Poll closed Feb 19, 2015.
  1. Liverpool win

    57.1%
  2. Draw

    21.4%
  3. Besiktas win

    7.1%
  4. MITO is a ****

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I don't really care but unless henderson's been hitting 100 pens a day for the past few weeks he really ought not to be stepping up when a guy who's record is formidable is right there to take it.

    lesson to rodgers. learn it well.
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Yeah, thought Gerrard was a bit too honest in saying how he thought Mario was disrespecting to Henderson etc...

    Fair enough say it behind closed doors in the changing room and you have the chats then if you have to, but on live tv? Didn't think it was the best thing he had to say, especially as Mario came on and changes the game.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    now......................

    i don't think this is a great result

    I think

    a) besiktas were organised and composed but not of really high quality

    b) we were not really got at but still coughed up chances, a lot of self inflicted stuff as well

    c) 1-0 going away to turkey is not a lot, it is however no away goal.

    I feel its good but not great. better than a kick in the teeth obviously but the tie is very very tight IMO.
     
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  4. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    Exactly this! Sorry but anyone with a brain knows Mario takes that.

    Think Gerrard's comments don't help either to be fair, could of really played it down but he didn't
     
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  5. He didn't have a go at Mario, he said Hendo should be stronger and apply the managers orders.
     
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  6. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely this
    Balo clearly the best we have. Reidy got it spot on for me, but i tell you now, i have just lost a wedge of respct for Gerrard. He should never have said what he just said, even if right. His answer should have been. It doesnt matter, we scored and we will sort it out. End of.
    Ftr Can shouting at Sturridge after Hendo wussed it - to me - shows captaincy too soon for Hendo, shame as I have always liked Hendo, but it aint natural to him, Can has natural leader written all over him.
     
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  7. saintanton

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    Don't think there's any doubt that Mario is the best penalty taker of the three.
    Bit of confusion, now let them sort it out for the future. Hendo needs to be strong and show his authority if he's the skipper. I don't mind Sturridge wanting to take it and being a bit miffed, as long as he doesn't sulk- there's no place for that. Can showed character calling Daniel over to celebrate (poor game from him, though).
    What's the betting the press will be all over it though, with stupid stories about dressing room rifts and everything?
     
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  8. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    Clearly finds him difficult to deal with. Tbh much as I want balotelli to do well, I really don't think he will be a part of our setup for more than a year. He's still the same guy, does what he wants and doesn't smile when he scores. I just don't see how that fits with our ethos.
     
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  9. That's bollocks. It's not Hendo's, Mario's, Studge's or even Gerard's choice, is the managers choice and if the manager said Hendo then that is who should take it no matter how good another players record is.
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    He said Mario was mischievous and disrespected Henderson as a captain by taking it off him....
     
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  11. Magic Ted

    Magic Ted Talulah

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    Balo saving his LFC career? Both him and Lovren have been solid from the bench. Seems llike all the Summers signings are slowly proving their worth.
     
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  12. Studge never tried to take it. He clearly tells Mario that Hendo is the managers choice.
     
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  13. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Well that's incredibly poor judgement by the management if he rather have Henderson take it over Mario.

    No chance I would give it to Hendo because he lacks composure. Quite clear he's not a captain.
     
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  14. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    That's how it looked but then Hendo said that Danny wanted to take it?
     
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  15. Or one was on the pitch at the start of the game and the other wasn't.
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Disagree.

    Players should be intelligent and have the balls to make their own decision on the pitch. They will live and die by those decisions but i'd rather my players were happy to take a risk and use their own minds than just follow orders without questioning.

    Everyone knows Mario is the best pen taker... just because Rodgers wanted Henderson to take it, deep down he probably knew Mario was a better pen taker and made the decision to let him have it. If Hendo was as confident in his penalty taking duties as Mario then Mario wouldn't have got within 10 yards of that ball.
     
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  17. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    So what would happen if it was Stevie who came off the bench?
     
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  18. Didn't hear that but tbf it's true anyway. Mario would be my choice but he wasn't the managers therefore he shouldn't have taken it.
     
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  19. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Well said - I want players who take responsibility and step up. We're adding more and more characters in this team and I love it.

    It's just a shame this incident will detract from some positive performances.
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Anyway....

    WE WON 1-0!!!!

    LETS ALL ENJOY THAT RATHER THAN ARGUE WITH OURSELVES <ok>
     
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