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Off Topic Jihadi's at it again.

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  1. Arsenal87

    Arsenal87 Well-Known Member

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    We can vote for our leaders, but let's be honest everybody, on the main issues, do they listen to anybody? Some could argue that using democracy and giving the people a choice is easier to control the people than an outright dictatorship, as it gives people the illusion of choice, which they need, and therefore they stay in line, whereas in a dictatorship you know what's up and if it's a bad dictatorship, you're more than not likely to stay in line and obey. But in the west we think hey maybe one day my vote will count and it will change, has anything really changed for the better of the people?
     
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    And if you are a political party that does want to bring actual change, you'll eventually be hounded out, or the mainstream politicians will take their positions, steal their support base, and then go back to the same old same. Isn't that what the conservative party in the UK has so often done?
     
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    Well if you have proper leaders it can be done, but in this case we don't. For example some of the rebels they were helping, they knew these were the actual bad guys who were previously being fought against! In Libya one of the main rebel commanders was trained in Afghanistan alongside Al-Qaeda, and he represented a group that was a franchise of Al-Qaeda, and this was public knowledge, he was even arrested by western government and interrogated, but they didn't care they still helped these bunch out....So that shows these leaders are playing a double game, just to suit their own needs and agendas.
     
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  4. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    Hey, I was asleep and your gob woke me up. You have a hell of a lot going on in your head mate, someone, somewhere may want to listen to it but this is not London mate, this is the North, the true UK. You would probably have been better off coming on here telling Arab jokes mate, you might of got heckled but we would have applauded you at the end.. <ok>

    Anyway, I'm off to bed again so keep the noise down yeah..
     
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  5. Blunham Mackem

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    There are so many alternatives to democracy. But the only thing worse than living in a democracy is not living in one.

    Democracy is the only real game in town until the right thing turns up.
     
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    Of course they are. To be believe otherwise would be naive in the extreme. That doesn't make it wrong. Or right. Just real-time expediency. It's called politics mate.
     
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  7. Arsenal87

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    Well I'm living in the UAE, I grew up here, I've also lived in the UK (8 years), so I've experienced both the 'democracy' and the not democracy, and to be honest there's not a whole lot different to me, when I was in the UK or go to the UK I didn't feel that sense of being more free inside me.
     
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  8. Arsenal87

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    They don't talk to each other in London, :D.
     
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  9. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Mate after reading the first page did it not occur to you, you are dealing with an ignorant mob of halfwits who have no idea of the people or wider world they're talking about. Leave them to it, they are as ignorant and extreme in their views as the morons they're vilifying. It comforts them. Just smile at the irony of it and leave them to it :)
     
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  10. Blunham Mackem

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    I spent time in Saudi, down Khamis Mushayt way. Never been to UAE, but going to Dubai later this year.

    Saudi is incredibly beautiful. You just need permission to move 25 miles or so from home to see it. If the UAE is anything like Saudi, restrictions-wise, you'd notice the difference between there and here.
     
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    What a ****ing boring **** Arsehole87 is. :emoticon-0118-yawn:
     
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    Trust me, UAE isn't ANYTHING, like Saudi Arabia, especially Dubai.....Even by comparison, some of the more conservative places here (Sharjah) are made to look like liberal hotspots when you compare it with KSA. I think you will be very surprised when you come to Dubai, though if you want to have a taste of the culture and the more UAE, I would recommend you actually visit Al-Ain (1 hour 30 minute drive) and even Sharjah. If you're into scenery and that type of stuff, then do visit Al-Ain, great natural scenes there.

    In Dubai you really will have to often remind yourself that you are in the Middle East, if it weren't for the mosques and call to prayer, you probably would forget.
     
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    <laugh><badger>
     
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    Dodgy avatar anyway :emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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    It does make him look a bit of a **** shoveller like & they dinnet tack to that ower grand in musso countries.
     
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    If I translated that, does that come to they don't take that over there grand in Muslim countries?
     
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    <laugh><laugh> Gotta be honest Billy. I could've done with sub-titles meself there pal.
     
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    Wey **** uz blue hinny, yey've gorrit.
    Afore lang yey'll be in the pigeon cree if yer keep deein that weel. <ok>
     
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  19. Billy Death

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    Lol, he's a knacker if you ask me.
     
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