ot from beheadings abroad to grooming here

this sort of stuff is happening ALL the time now , theres the beheading , burning alive of prisoners .The murder of people because they are christians and countless other atrocities in the middle east the atrocities in africa (the abduction of over 200 school girls) and the things closer to home the 7 -7 murders, the horific killing of Lee Rigby and tonight the 10 oclock news reporting a man from liverpool mohamed amah alli being charged with trying to obtain chemical weapons and the things much closer to home the threat to the 2 girls of being beheaded because they were wearing there cadet uniform.Allso tonight the local news reporting on the investigation into operation sanctuary which is suspiciously looking more and more like the rotherham case ,being charged a further 9 men,eisa mousavi,mohamed azram, abdul hamid minoye, saif islam,ibrahim rousel, mohamed khalique being named . Rape and sexual trafficking on girls as young as 13 being the charge .
Personaly iv had enough, im sick of it and i would just like to say to all you do good bastards .And to the media THERE IS a common denominator and it aint the christians the sikh's the buddist's or the hindu's

 

I'm sure there was a story on the local radio station this morning about an 11yr old girl having a lock of her snip off in a restaurant in town I shuddered when I heard that. I have no idea what religion the perpetrator was but I didn't want to create a thread about it.

Is the media not a touch guilty of focusing on all the bad things extreme muslims do? There is extremism from other religion etc but they don't seem to get the same focus

Perhaps the people controlling the media sources have an agenda?

 

Mate please think before you post stuff like this! It makes you seem ignorant but as I don't know you well enough I won't pass judgment on you. BUT...

Was it Muslims who kidnapped and burnt the all the students in Mexico? Was it Muslims who rape and kill women in India on an almost daily basis? Was it a Muslim who snatched raped and killed that young girl in Wales a few years back! Was it Muslims...

Where ever you go in the world people will do stupid **** (like post a racially suggestive thread on a football forum) but you can't tarnish them all with the same brush.

In no way do I condone violence of religion or any kind for that matter but for these sick ****s Boko Haram, Isis, al Queda etc there are millions of peaceful loving people in each religion who have nothing to do with these idiots, who you are discrediting.

 

I have a lot of decent Muslim mates in Turkey, some of who get pissed etc... just like we do. They are clearly moderate but the Koran is simply there for interpretation.
It's when arseholes like ISIS try to use the religion as a rallying call that I (and my Turkish mates by he way) get really pissed off.
It's pleasing to see Egypt and Libya, as Islamic states trying to wipe ISIS off the map too.... that alone tells you what you need to know about how these crack pots are viewed in the wider Islamic world.
Outside of Islam there have been countless atrocities committed by many different faiths... all in the name of 'religion' or 'ideology'.
Probably one of the biggest series of atrocities was the crusades our ancestors all went on....
Also.. did you know Churchill was actually involved in the first concentrations camps in South Africa during the Boer war?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html

I do understand what you are trying to say in the OP and personally whatever flag they try to rally around, I hope we wipe arseholes like this off the face of the earth, however history tells us that when you cut off the head of a snake.... two will then appear.

 

People forget one important thing when they talk about ISIS; they aren't Muslim's. All religion has at some point had a radical extreme element that 'distorts' a specific religious text. I'm not religious myself and don't pretend to understand what the Koran actually says. I do have friends that are devout Muslim's however. They don't have fanatical tendencies and abhor those nuts that sully the name of their faith. ISIS are criminals hiding behind their distorted view of Islam and are trying to start a Holy War. The problem is - Killing them makes them martyrs to fellow radicals. Wiping them out would solve the immediate problem but wouldn't get rid of the underlying issue in understanding why these groups evolve. It's a tough one.

 

Human beings are not an intelligent species... we can process about two things at any one time. We love a good dichotomy. Good and bad, light and dark, and if you're going to paint yourselves as inherently morally correct, you need an opposite. Muslims are an easy enemy. A medium a few stories can quickly create fear through, and the media lap it up... Reason being, if they give you an easy enemy, you'll keep going down the avenues they want you to, thinking the way they want, hating the way they want, and creating stories they like... For instance, after the recent Paris shootings, crimes against muslim populations in France doubled in January 2015 the entire figure for 2014.

If nutjobs didn't have religion, they'd find some other cause to commit sicks act in the name of.

 

for a start how the **** is the post racist that old chestnut?islam is not a race fullstop.The crusades that will be the crusades between the 11th and 13th centuary?Turkey where several catholic bishops have been murdered TODAYS NEWS - a man is in court being charged with plotting to bomb the arnedale center in manchester part of a combined plot to bomb Denmark, New York AND Manchester

 

All you've done as far as I can see, is put into words what a lot off people are thinking and saying.
It doesn't make you ignorant, or racist, just someone who can see what is going on.
If anything you could have added many more atrocities currently happening in the name of religion.

 

People often mention the Crusades but won't talk about Islamic armies rampaging throughout the Levant, Mesopotamia, North Africa and Spain, on a path of murder, rape and destruction, four centuries before the first Crusade came into being.

It wasn't just about 'Christian vs Muslim', it is a lot more complicated than that. Both the Abbasid and Fatimids despised each other, the Seldjuk Empire was slowly disintergrating with the independent Emirates and Turkmen dynasties in the area acting in various ways with stances of neutrality, and others aiding Crusader forces (either through revictualing or simple safe passage) in hope of a power vacuum developing with this new presence in the Holy Land and the Byzantine Empire under Alexius using his guile by playing various Crusader leaders off against one another and using their forces as a means to re-occupy parts of Anatolia.

I would suggest various reading on the subject. Runciman's trilogy, although some sixty years old, is still a great base to start from and is totally engrossing reading.

 

Interesting stuff BRS but all I'm thinking now is "don't the turks make nice kebabs"

 

Go back before Muslims existed and Christians were killing in the name of god en masse. Go back before Christians existed and people were killing in the name of Jupiter, Thor, Ra, The Sun... A stick with a slightly slopey and unusual end that's a bit smooth... All praise the stick!

Religion is for the genuinely mentally deficient, and unfortunately they're the ones who historically have power, so the normies follow them like sheep so they can maybe have a barley water at the end of a hard day moving rocks from one patch of dirt to another, and maybe get a ****...

 

We've found common ground

 

I always, believed I was an atheist, but, you've convinced me once and for all I'm not after all, JPF....thanks

What can I say, following the genuinely mentally deficient, being a normie following them like sheep.

I'm an Ashleylite....hallelujah

 

So this is what it feels like to be wrong

 

for some one to say isis arn't muslims is just beyond me when it is being reported up to 3000 british muslims have gone abroad to join isis ,students in mexico i give you bali ,for the young girl in wales , i give you madrid for rapes in india ? i give you charllie ebdo in paris

that was then hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of years ago some religions have moved on

 

I have no problem with people who hold some kind of religious belief. I do think though that it has run its course and is now clearly an evil we need to move past for the good of our own evolution. I'm not saying get rid of those who believe in some god or other, just maybe give them their own continent to fight it out while the rest get on with progress

I also take exception with those who try to explain my lack of interest in religion and belief in any deity as down to a fear of something I struggle to understand or jealousy of those who are able to connect. Or perhaps I think its a load of archaic bollocks with very little sound reasoning?

 

*****philes in the catholic church wasn't hundreds of hundreds of years ago
Anti-islamist attacks against peaceful muslims happen all the time, they just aren't reported on the TV news. The financial times ran one the weekend before last, they were the only ones. 140-odd attacks against Muslims occurred in January after the paris attacks...

Doesn't matter what you believe, violently attacking someone else is wrong

 

Remember this?!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259356

Lovely Christian chappy there. Topper

 

the victims of the catholic priests and the island of Utoeya were targeted because of ?