I think the first goal for them was okay, BUT I don't think Le Fondre would have left the ball if he hadn't seen the linesman flag.
A similar goal, almost identical, was disallowed in Ligue 1 in France this weekend, I caught it on BY Sports European Football Show... can't remember the match though. Rightly so imho. Not necessarily so in the eyes of the law, but I've long maintained that the interpretation of the offside law is a bit of a horses arse not to put too fine a point on it.
the guy was intertering with play because the linesman flag and our plays stopped but the ref sore it different thats why you tell the very young kids you play to the whistle
are but we win a lot less than 50% of our away games so we would need to play 4 or 5 to win 2 and this year we will be playing 4 lol
In my view you either scrap the offside rule and make teams defend properly (if they wish too) or go back to the original rule where you are offside regardless of whether you are interfeering with play or not. If you are on the pitch you are interfeering with play period.
I'd disagree with that - one incident that has always rankled with me was during a 0-0 draw at Millwall, Your namesake dribbled the ball to the corner flag, passed the ball backwards into the penalty box and was then dumped on his arse by a defender. Before he got up, we scored but the linesman flagged offside. Technically he was correct I suppose, but how anyone sitting on their arse by a corner flag, after having been fouled, could be deemed to be interfering with play is anyone's guess. Going back to the Bolton goal on Saturday - IMO the video clearly shows him moving towards the ball from an offside position before holding his hands up & that's interfering.
ok - it annoyed me, particularly as Le fondre was clearly the intended receiver. But hey, the team got over it, brilliantly. So should we.
Man U just scored the same type of goal! Claim was that Rooney was standing in an offside position but not interfering.
A yard off the keeper and had to move to avoid the ball.... Erm, off-side 101 in my book. Big club decisions....
Dreadful decision. I don't know what the answer is, but every week now the officials become the main talking points of games, not the matches themselves. Yes the game is faster now, but are the officials any better for being full time professionals? John Smith who left the branch bank in time to control a game didn't do any worse. Maybe you can argue that TV shows up their mistakes, or that some of the rules they enforce have become not fit for purpose. Fans want to see goals, and the current offside laws were an attempt to keep more action around the goal mouths, but tonight was a classic example of how the rule is wrong, or the referee applied it wrongly.
IMO the rule itself is the problem - simply because of the line 'in the referee's opinion'. It needs to change to something clearly 'black & white' that doesn't rely upon someone's opinion, and is far easier to police for linesmen. It speaks volumes that last night's pundit (Keown?), a former top-flight player, said that the decision was correct because Rooney never touched the ball.