Few people in the world could commit that capital to a purchase and have the cash to hand. The extra cash coming in will be eaten by a comparable rise in costs accross all the twenty clubs, rather than giving most a lump sum to invest. Much more likely that we borrow the cash based on a sensible repayment plan linked to a contingency we go down. Arsenal were shot down for years for not splashing out big money for players, yet they slowly and steadily paid back the stadium costs out of their income. The cost to buy the place and enlarge it and improve it would dwarf any increase from the new deal. Salaries will rocket whatever they say now...
Why? At the moment cheaper tickets would help less than 2,000 people given the average crowds and capacity. We have had £16 games not sold out but Man Utd etc will at £50. Which suggests it isn't just a matter of affording prices.
I was talking about crowds in the top flight being the highest for 50 years which is why expecting price reductions in the PL is somewhat naive.
How much do we get in ticket sales each season? £6 million? This is a drop in the ocean when you look at a club's total income. Would it really make much difference if clubs reduced prices by 20 or 30 percent? It would have a definite impact on fans!
Quite agree. But Arsenal, with the steepest prices, sell all available tickets and have a waiting list for season tickets of about 20,000. Hard to make a case for the need to drop prices with examples like that and the PL having an average of something like 97 or 98% occupancy. Administrators of sports would sell their mothers for that.
But you're looking at it from the perspective of the businessman, rather than the fans. It's EASY to make the case, based on the idea that club owners should balance off their incomes against treating their fans decently!
As I said, Polly, I don't agree with it but I am living in the real world. Very few club owners have a connection with the club or its fans like Harold Needler, Bob Lord etc...
I don't know Castro, when one of the Juniors can't go there's 4 in there class who can't afford to go so they draw lots for the spare pass...there's quite a few in there year who say they want to go to footy by parents can't afford it. I think if that's repeated across Hull at all schools there's quite a big number who can't afford tickets.
We are talking about he margins. If 18,000 season tickets are sold and a couple of thousand go to away fans then we are looking at price elasticity of 5,000 tickets. As we are currently typically selling 3-4,000 of these, you are maybe looking at the price elasticity of 1,000 tickets. Until attendances drop noticeably, there is no need for him to drop prices (philanthropy aside). Demand appears to be holding up quite well (although is expect it to fall further next year) and currently only an increase of supply (higher capacity) would require a drop in prices to get extra punters through the doors.
My point is that less than 2,000 a game would benefit. Thete may well be more than that who can't afford to go. Though juniors aren't amongst them at our prices.
But thousands of kids can't fill 1000 seats. There isn't room. Until there is capacity, it's a rich man's game.
I would give unsold tickets to schools for free Plenty of empty seat v Villa. Maybe its just a stupid idea but I hate to see empty seats when they could be filled . I also hate people being priced out Makes me madder then the stupid name change
So once again he acknowledges a need to expand the stadium, yet still won't talk to the council about it. But Chazz says it's rank stupidity to question yet more of this bollocks. Does anyone really think that if the ground was expanded Allam would actually pass the savings on to fans? Would he ****.
I reckon it depends. If we had a capacity of say 40,000 and were getting 36,000 then probably not. If we were getting crowds of sub 30,000 then probably yes.
What savings would they be? Is the ground expansion going to be done for free? We keep hearing how the stadium belongs to the people of Hull. Maybe they are going to give their time and labour for free? In the meantime how long would it take to repay the £20million or so it would cost? Assuming of course they are all sold every week whether in the PL or not.
