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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by The Omega Man, Feb 13, 2015.

  1. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

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    I think they may have to a certain degree. The rules where different in parts of London.

    The divide is possibly class driven and this is reflected in the modern codes of the post war period more than now.

    If you read the link I posted earlier to does give details.

    Basically a big ball that was kicked or carried into or over a goal line was football at the time and different rules where applied even during the same matches.
     
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  2. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    The comment about the team playing in Newland seems to confirm part of what I put earlier, about reading the City's predecessors (Albany) played on a cricket pitch off Haworth St, near what's now Endsleigh Convent.

    First Yorkshireman to Captain England was from Hull. We've a long history of being Yorkshire's number one. <ok>.
     
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  3. Polly13

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    Come on lads, which is the second oldest club still in existence? I need to know!
     
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  4. Barchullona

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    Did you mean more than then? In which case I disagree.

    Go down to Devon or Cornwall and the bars are full of people watching Union. And they aren't all upper class ex public schoolboys.

    Hull FC were formed by a group of ex public schoolboys from York. Bunch of toffs! And out of towners to boot! Shouldn't have been allowed.
     
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  5. DMD

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    Probably Hull RLFC with Hull KR first.
    They were both formed before RL existed or football rules were standardised.
     
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  6. Polly13

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    No, I mean Association Football. Is there another club in the city which has been around for a great length of time?
     
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  7. The Omega Man

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    The divide was over what rules you played under and this seems clear to me that there was a clas divide.
    Eton, Rugby, Cambridge and Sheffield were all rules of play.
    Just look at the names in the above and it isn't hard to see that the odd one out is Sheffield.
     
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  8. DMD

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    http://www.eastridingfa.com/findaclub

    A process of elimination, searching from the city centre?

    Sculcoates is a possibility.
     
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  9. The Omega Man

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    That's one of the things I am trying to find out.
     
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    Someone at East Riding FA must know.
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Hull Brunswick folded in the early 70's, dunno when they started. Hall Rd rangers started up in 1959. There may be amateur clubs who started before that. Maybe Reckitts, Fish Trades. Old Grammarians?
     
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    I could be wrong but isn't Polly just mocking y'all?
     
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  13. Barchullona

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    Have a look at the backgrounds of the two blokes who formulated the Sheffield Rules. Horny handed, working class types they were not.
     
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  14. Barchullona

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    Where did that badge come from? It has never been on a City shirt.
     
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  15. The Omega Man

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    Football club membership was expensive.

    I have just read that Hull Football Club played in Scarlet and White! I can hear graves turning as I type this!
     
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  16. HHH

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    I wondered the same. The book it came from was published in 1971 and think we had a plain amber shirt with no badge at that point.

    So when, where or even if that badge was used, I've no idea. Would be greatful if someone could shed some light on it.

    https://peterrmiles.wordpress.com/tag/bartholemews-maps/

    http://thefootballattic.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/bartholomew-football-history-map-of.html?m=1
     
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  17. Barchullona

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    It was never used. It is facing tight. Every badge with a tiger on we have had has been facing left, except the facing forward monstrosity of the Buchanan era. Must admit I quite like it though.

    http://historicalkits.co.uk/Hull_City/Hull_City.htm
     
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    Wonder if the club named Albany was in fact Anlaby?
     
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  19. Barchullona

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    It wasn't.
     
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  20. City Lover

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    Wikipedia have it wrong here. If you read the proper history books you will find that Hull City AFC had/have nothing to do with Hull KR/Albany FC. Albany FC had disbanded before the Hull City we know and love had been formed. The only slight connection might have been that the founding fathers of Hull City in 1904 may have had one or a maximum of two minor directors who had once been involved in Albany FC.

    The Hull City we all support were a totally new and independent Club when set up in 1904. There has never been any connection between Hull City and the Rugby Clubs or any of the many amateur football Clubs that tried and failed to establish themselves.
     
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