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The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Feb 13, 2015.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning Everyone,

    Its the eve of arguably the biggest game of the season thus far....

    Agree?

    We're not just talking safety in the Championship....

    We are not just talking about condemning the Wall for an eternity in League 1...

    We're talking about bragging rights...


    It looks like Bianci will be out for the rest of the season after suffering medial ligement damage during our 2-0 win at the Madjeski Stadium midweek. Does anyone think we'll ever see him in a Leeds shirt again?

    I doubt it!

    Liam Cooper is still unwell. I would imagine the back four will be the same as Tuesday nights.

    Would anyone beef up the midfield a bit for tomorrows game?


    HOPEFULLY, Durham will put a match thread up today...
     
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  2. leeds60

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    Good morning to Matt and co froma dull Bardsey
    the back 5 could be the same but I am not happy with wootons role as a right back hes not mobile enough for me
    Cooper will not play and I would put in Granddi to beef up the midfield along with Austin Beradi at lb and Taylor wide lef tso no place for Mowatt its not a game for boys we need men out there
    My team would be
    Silvestri Byram Beluscoli Bamba capt Beradi
    Austin Granddi Murphy Cook Taylor
    Canir
    I think Bianci has played is last game for us along with possibly Adryan
     
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  3. ellandback

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    Transsexual boxing promoter Kellie Maloney hails Millwall fans for 'accepting' her
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    Boxing promoter Kellie Maloney has praised her fellowMillwall supporters for 'accepting' her during her first visit to The Den since going public with her transsexuality.

    The 61-year-old, who was born as Frank, has been undergoing treatment and recently admitted that watching Millwall was an "important step" to get back to normal life.

    Maloney watched her side's 3-1 defeat to Huddersfield Town last Saturday from a friend's box at the ground.

    "I was really well received," Maloney told the Daily Star. "It was a very important step for me in getting back to living a normal life.

    "It was great to be back in the Millwall family. Millwall's a family club and if you're a true Millwall fan, you're accepted no matter what."

    Maloney used to represent Lennox Lewis during her career as a boxing promoter.
     
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  4. ellandback

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    Morning Mike,

    Byrams defending scared me when I came up for the Fulham game. He did not look comfortable.

    Wooton is not ideal. I'd agree with you about Austin and N'goyi if fit.
     
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  5. LeedsLover

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    Cooper, Berardi and Austin all ill, mmmmmmm.

    Any bets on who will make the quickest recovery.

    I don't think Adryan or Bianchi have played there last game for us.

    Bianchi will be back unless the ligament damage screws up his career, that remains to be seen, best to wait till after the assessment.

    Adryan will play again before end of season if Cook picks up 5 yellows. Adryan is Cellino's baby, Cellino did a Don Revie to get Adryan at Leeds, I will be surprised if Cellino lets Adryan go at end of season.

    IMO, again, Adryan won't play because Redders don't want anyone out playing his little Cookie boy. For me, Redders talks bull.

    Speaking of boys, which I wasn't, Leeds60, you added Cook in the team, he's a boy still. How do you think he's different from Mowatt, or Byram, or Taylor?

    Obviously no malice Leeds60, I was just curious why you picked Cook in team.

    As most know, I don't rate Cook as high as Redders, well, no one rates Cook as high as Redders, but his stats are very low compared to other players, and the last few games his performance rating has gone backwards. Against Reading he got a -4.

    http://www.squawka.com/players/lewi...eason-2014/2015#127#all-matches#1-30#by-match

    I appreciate some don't like stats, but squawka are pretty close to the mark.
     
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  6. Orion

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    Morning all,

    Cook is just a class player. His touch and silky dribbles at times are breathtaking, especially considering he has only just turned 18! Unlike Murphy who's got a shocking first touch (in my opinion, I still rate him overall though). I don't really care about stats IF what you see is working and I think Cook is immense (however, I don't necessarily see all of the game, just highlights so make of that what you will).

    My team for Sat (that won't happen)
    Silvestri
    Berardi Bellusci Bamba Taylor
    Cook Ngoyi
    Byram Murphy Montenegro
    Antenucci

    (would like another B at the back to improve the poor alliteration though! Ha)
     
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  7. leeds60

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    Leeds Luvr Cook has got that bit of steel that Mowatt hasnt got he is a little terrier no he's good enough and tough enough for this game and he has some good touches thats why I picked him.In my original team I forgot Murphy who has been playing much better so I have included him now
    Hope this answers your question it seems we all agree about Wooton Montengro I would love for this lad to be given the nod especially as we need aleft winger but this is not the game Blackpool away would be ideal
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    Not surprised she was well received, miles the best looking bird at the den Id say. Could imagine a lot of wallies licking their lips looking at that.
    Morning all btw
     
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  9. LeedsLover

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    Some do follow stats while some don't Orion, it's horses for courses.

    I do disagree about Cook however, he's a talented player with potential but, he hasn't been playing as well as Redders continually says he has. For me, I don't see any impact from Cook, we need a midfield that creates impact, imo it's why we're in the position we are, we had no impact after Redders changed things around.

    We saw against Reading what happens when we leave Austin out, Bianchi was playing well till his injury, then Sloth come on and made a big difference.

    If we took Cook out (I can hear the disagreements already) and had a midfield that included Sloth, Adryan and Monty, then we'd see a midfield that creates an impact, not only during game but for our strikers too.

    Going back to the 4 games Redders had as temp coach, he had nothing to do really, we won 3 and drew one and Redders was lapping it up, then he tinkered, and later started blaming Hockaday and Darko for his own failings.

    Look what happened against Sunderland with the midfield, we bossed the midfield for most of game against a prem side, that midfield showed the previous midfield up. Both games were forced changes, not normal selection.

    I'm bewildered why Morison still plays and doesn't score, I do not believe for one minute that Morison is the reason we have accumulated some points over last 6 games as some seem to think. Some say our performances had improved, but I didn't see it before the Reading game, and the Brentford game showed it.

    What Redders says about Adryan is total bull in my opinion. He played excellent in the first Derby game, he played excellent against Sunderland but Redders replaced him and didn't pick him again; I wonder why.

    http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spor...pressure-for-adryan-return-redfearn-1-7101991

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30155872

    I know I write a lot, never been much for 1 or 2 sentence debates, and I know I reiterate some things but, it is in no way written with any disrespects or attacks against anyone on here.

    I do tend to delve into more detail than most, only because I look at, and see things differently to others

    Doesn't matter what we debate on here, even though I'm sure we all enjoy it, but Redders will pick his favourites in my opinion. What worries me is, we still have 16 games to go.
     
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  10. leeds60

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    Sorry Luvr but we agree to disagree .To me this is the match of the season win this and we will have an 8 point cushion with only 15 games to go
    For this reason we need men with experience out there to fight the battle which it will be .Believe me this is their cup final and defining fixture lose against us and the will have only Charlton whom I believe will go down and Brighton to cling to so picking Adryan Mowatt Montenegro is not an option in my humble opinoin
    Sloth I would definately pick him in the squad along with Billy Sloth Wooton Cani Antenucci Fabio
     
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  11. LeedsLover

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    You're alright Leeds60, we've agreed on something,lol.

    I'm human, I understand people have differing opinions....:emoticon-0148-yes:....<party>

    Out of curiosity, are you the Leeds60, or Leeds62 from other forum?
     
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  12. leeds60

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    Both I should be Leeds 64 now but I dont know how to change it!
     
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  13. leeds60

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    I have problems with LIW on the other forum so I dont usually post now I cant tolerate fools who know nothing
     
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  14. Whitejock

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    Morning All,

    General: IMO, Redders will be playing not to lose on Saturday. It wouldn't surprise me if we line up 4-5-1 with a midfield full of diggers, and invite Millwall on to us in the hope that we score on the break. It kinda makes sense too, as Millwall need the 3 points more than we do from this match. So it's unlikely we'll have any 'tippy-tappies' lined up for us, so that rules out Adryan and Montenegro (still galls me that the FL haven't pulled him up for such a racist name yet - expect a 20 point deduction soon!). I don't think it's the type of match to introduce a new player, so N'goyi & Cani can expect the bench at best.

    Defence: Why change it? Got a clean sheet last game & understanding is building up. I reject calls for Berardi to replace Wootton. Now if he was light years ahead of Wootton, fair enough. He's not. Btw, we used to use he RHS for our main attacking thrust in the form of Byram at RB, and the LHS had a more defensive look with Warnock. Don't know if you've noticed that we've switched it round. Wootton is now our defensive FB option on the RHS, leaving Byram free to do his funky thing. On the LHS, we now have Taylor 'doing a Byram', and IMO, he's doing it better (certainly defensively).

    Midfield: I'n not as sure about the MF lineup, mainly as I don't know if Austin will be fit for a return or not. If not, we could shuffle the MF pack & put Sloth in. I've also included Mowatt reluctantly, as I can't think of another LM option that's a fighter (unless Sloth can slot in there - think he struggled last time). My wildcard for LM would be Doukara, but I'm guessing Redders wildcard would be Sharp. Sadly. The rest of the midfield picks itself. I'd prefer it if we actually played 4-4-1-1 wih Austin playng behind Morison.

    Attack: Morison. No other real option to play up front on his own. Antennuci at a push. Not a game to start Cani.

    ............................Silvestri
    ...Wootton...Bamba...Bellusci...Taylor
    Byram...Murphy...Austin...Cook...Mowatt
    ..........................Morison

    Thoughts?
     
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  15. Josh-LUFC

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    On the Cook debate I have very much liked what I have seen of him when I have watched. He looks mature far beyond his years and has great touch. I am very surprised though he has played as much as he has and I'm not sure its the best thing for Leeds United.

    I don't really believe in changing the team to be more physical against physical sides though. Bringing in the likes of Austin because we expect a battle just takes our creativity and cutting edge away imo. Not saying presence isn't an important asset but it should be combined with technical quality as well.
     
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  16. leeds60

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    Off topic but a thought no doubt some paper will have suggested it so it won't be my idea Wigan are having a torrid time under Malky McKay he has won only one game in17 against yes us!
    I think that whelan will sack him and appoint Paul Jewel and Chris Hutchings who has just got sacked from Barnsley its well known that he likes this pairing so watch this space !
    How nmany of us excluding me wanted Mckay well hes worse than Darko!
     
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    Whelan very publicly defended Mackay as well


    And on a little bit of a side note, 60 you gotta start getting people's names right <laugh> in this thread alone you have written Belluscoli, Beradi, Canir, Bianci and McKay
     
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    Suppose man for man, Cook has been our best player this season. We know he's a bit of a lightweight, but with the likes of N'goyi and Austin possibly playing, Cook would offer something different possibly. Afternoon btw
     
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    I think Austin should play tomorrow. He's perfect for a game this this.

    Great team though
     
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    Afternoon Eire <laugh>
     
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