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Should we be scared of artificial intelligence?

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  1. Toby

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    I'm still beeling about the Angella sending off <grr> <grr>
     
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  2. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    If you want to be worried and feart about technology you should already be. They're called Google.

    That, and nano technology. That's some scary **** right there.
     
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    That's all covered in part two of the article.
     
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    I read the entire thing and most of the comments too.
    These are no more than theories , computers will be able to store more information and "learn" by trial and error to overcome tasks asked of them but when they start talking about self replicating nanobots it just gets daft.
    Google answers any question but it doesn't have the thought process to question the results that have been posted by humans.
    You could build an ED209 type killer robot but when it runs out of bullets it can't reload itself or build a factory to make new rounds, robots will only be as dangerous as the people in charge of them.
    If you "trust" a computer with nukes then even a glitch could end up in disaster but I'm more concerned with scientists ****ing about with bioweapons that mutate and nobody can control.
     
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    The thing is we already have ANI. AGI is the point where computers become more capable than us. Which most scientists agree is not far away. I agree that the estimates regarding achieving ASI and the implications of it are mere conjecture. But when Mr hawking is scared of something I kinda feel he has a point. As how do we know whether we will be capable of controlling it. Clearly it is all conjecture based on peoples opinions who are all far more qualified to express an opinion on it than any of us. But having read it all it does very much feel like it could either be the making of us or the end of us.

    That one bloke who works for Google is in the positive camp and thinks we are going to end up as some sort of hybrid machines who live forever is clearly a dick but ever throng wlse he has ever predicted has come true.

    It's all a bit mind bending really.

    Have a read of this one;

    http://listverse.com/2013/12/02/10-reasons-life-may-be-a-computer-simulation/
     
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    Mel Brooks wants to make Spaceballs 2. We should all be scared of that.
     
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    We will have AI that can aid us to **** ourselves up by calculating new ways of killing each other and cars and planes that drive/fly themselves but until a computer is given the ability to turn information into physically carrying out these commands then it will effectively be people using their inteligence for their own ends.
    If we start relying on computers to do everything for us we are ****ed and moving away from collecting our own rainwater and growing our own food is our biggest problem.
    Robots and computers are replacing people and making the 1% control everything that's the main threat.
    McDonalds will probably be fully staffed by robots and Tesco is already half way there forcing you to scan all your own crap they sell.
     
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    (1) We're miles away from there. What everyone doesn't understand is that computers need programming to do stuff. Until they can program their own code (which they're VERY slowly starting to develop), whilst having a desire to survive and prolong their existence (a level of consciousness we won't be able to replicate in computers until we understand how it works in a brain, we're AGES away from that), and then for some reason decide that they want to kill us all?? AI is never going to be 'better than us' as such.

    (2) Bullshit. Unless by 'not far away' you mean 'ages if not never'.

    (3) We can control it because we create it. That's the whole point of programming.

    (4) Speak for yourself. Hawkings has no idea what he's talking about, I probably know more about the subject than him, it's nothing to do with his field of research.

    (5) We'll be looooooooooooooooong gone before it's even a risk.
     
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    High resolution full colour holograms can be used for medicine, especially creating 3D versions of damaged organs.

    In design rather than a ******ed 3D printer, which is just a waste of plastic and electricity.

    They can be used to map an industrial site and work out where to put pipework, ducting etc then display it as a hologram which can be viewed from any angle.

    So a little bit more than porn.
     
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    Most humans are practically slaves working to pay for food transport rent or mortgages to carry on surviving the more jobs carried out by machines × the more people being born will end in disaster pretty soon.
    There is no sign that the 1% who control nearly all the money and resources are just going to keep us alive because they would rather live in a risk free World with less people getting in their way .
    The conspiracy theory where we will all be chipped and totally reliant on computers is pretty much now but it's not computers enslaving us it's greedy evil humans.
    I can see most poor people living in 1984 type scenarios and being forced to do tasks that robots can't or be left to die while the rich elite carry on as usual .
    Without a chip and pin bank card a computerised ignition for a car or oyster card or computerised door key to enter your home if you have one you will be forced to live in the ****ing woods and pick berries, that is evolution.
    People on DSS have to do exactly as they are told or they get evicted or have their money "sanctioned" by some ****ing grey humanoid assessing you in front of a computer.
    We have let technology create a virtual prison for ourselves and enslaved by the rich who use us to get richer.
    Vote Tory.<laugh>
     
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  13. Toby

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    That's always happened and it always will.

    It's the only thing left in life that gives Mick an erection :frown:
     
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  14. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    True AI will never happen. In a few centuries we may get a reasonable approximation. But it will be just that. An approximation, a highly sophisticated pretence. As for actual sentience, **** off.
     
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    You ****ing tell them Gamby.
     
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  16. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Ok.

    True AI will never happen. In a few centuries we may get a reasonable approximation. But it will be just that. An approximation, a highly sophisticated pretence. As for actual sentience, **** off.
     
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    Yes,that was a bizarre decision was it not? Quite clearly not the last man.
     
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    It's an open secret that the acworth account on here was an attempt by a group of 2nd year students from Croydon College to win the Turing prize. Judging from the posts it generated, it's clear there's a long way to go and we've nothing to be afraid of at the moment.
     
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    Apart from Islamic nutters retired East End mobsters & ghosts
     
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