Let's be honest, Eamon, I said let's move on first...and I said it louder than anybody else! So, ya boo sucks to the lot of you! (Maniacal laugh ad infinitum)
Touch of Schadenfreude when reading posts such as these. Think what your really bothered about is in amongst all this are repeated posts idenitfying ways in which your stances and opinions on Redknapp over the last 18 months or so are your proved wrong repeatedly and maybe understandably you want the reminders of that to go away quickly. I was fairly early in getting on the anti-Harry bus and that bus became more and more popular. What many others and I have said is essentially he isnt good enough and even worse he doesnt care. Well now we know he doesnt or rather didnt care!! He walks out on the club the day after transfer window leaving now. Should have done so after the Man United game (if not before) to give the club and the next manager time to bed in and possibly sign their own players. So since he didnt do that he should have had the courteousy, loyalty and respect to stick it out, what stands out is the hypocrisy of posters such as yourselves. Who despite this and previous blatant disrespectful behaviour to the club by Harry you do not pull him up on it and are unhappy when others do. Weirdly a big correlation with those fans who abuse he who shall not be named so much for seeming disrepect to the club (which is the hypocrisy i'm referring to) As well as not caring we also know he wasnt good enough. If he thought he could keep us up he would have stayed but he knew he couldnt due to a combination of inability and not caring. He is a famous old man with a massive ego and what famous old men with massive ego's care about most is their legacy and their reputation. He didnt care about the club and abandon us because he was more concerned about being remembered as a failure. He had no excuses if he brought us down and he had little job prospect for future employment as he is a football dinosaur So if you after only 2 days following such a significant moment in our season you cant handle the comments, opinion and reactions then just take a break or better just ignore those threads that relate to it. With 2 days being in your eyes enough time to debate such a big issue I am sure you will now be following a strict policy of only commenting on big news story threads within a 48 hour time frame. Dont worry i'll be happy to remind you as and when you violate this on future unrelated topics.
Probably explains why you haven't posted much since your Golden Boy showed himself to be a chump, Kia
What part are we actually debating anymore? There's a minor issue of speculation about the timing and forced nature of his resignation but that has little bearing on Redknapp's tenure and more on that of the incoming manager (in terms of tweaking the squad) although, if we're trying not to be a buying club, the same shackles might have been on the new guy until the Summer anyway. My opinion of Redknapp varied between middling doubt and mild optimism at the start, through mild indifference to general annoyance in the middle and an absolute certainty that he was wrong for us by the end. I'm not too sure how that fits the pro-anti divide and whether I deserve ridicule or have gained some right to wallow in my "victory". As someone who feels proven right, do you want to apologise to those that were right before you were and indulge them in their earned reward of waving it in your face for any length of time that they see fit? I find the whole "He was right and we need it verbalised to validate his existence" notions very tedious and is only upheld by a small number on here. I think when it gets proven that there really are some grey areas rather than just black and white, there will be a vast majority of posters on here that are owed apologies for being absolutely right on the subject from a very few....
What are we debating? Well that always depends on the thread title and OP, here it is whether it is Which means stop debating the departure of Redknapp My opinion is that it isn’t time to move on. I also thought it weird and bordering on arrogant for a thread 2 days after as significant event as this to instruct us to: 'Move on' This is especially so when the whole prospect of Harry leaving and reasons for this departure (i.e transfer spending, his ability and his respect or lack of respect for the club ) have been such a core topic for so long Because I found it weird and arrogant to make such posts and then for some to go along with this call for silence and no debate (on a discussion forum) I decided to ruminate on the reasons for such a post, and my psychoanalytical guess is that they want sudden silence because the anti- Harry camp are having an I told you so moment of sorts (and so you know I have had to split this into black and white because to divide out on the grey areas would mean writing a thesis) Within this there is also a request to not debating too strongly the next replacement by referencing a post from Col about this. I also find this very weird when you consider the devastating impact the previous 2 appointments have had on this club held against the context that Tony Fernandes our chairman has said he wants the fans to have an input in this.
One, not a matter of who started slagging off Harry first, and congratulations to you, for slagging him off first - If that gives you a sense of righteousness. Two, feel free to continue slagging Harry off as long as you want and reminding everyone you slag him off first - but honestly, where does that get you ? Yes, I was one who was prepared to support my club, and whoever managed them, through thick and thin, probably beyond the realms of sanity. There are many who know far more about football on this site than I, and as a long time supporter of QPR, I just want to support the club - end of. I will take exception to any criticism of anything QPR, call me a glass half full person.
I have to agree with Peter damage on this. We will talk about harry long after we get a new guy in and no time frame should be put on it. I for one was very pro harry until the last 2 months when it became obvious to see he didn't know what he was doing. Being quite a regular away supporter (as I'm a yorkshire man!!) I feel I have every right to criticise, moan, slag off etc etc. The timing of his resignation says all anyone needs to know yet his excuses are as Peter says, to keep his rep intact. Will most likely keep kicking him for a few weeks yet!
Because I'm sure the debate will carry on that's why!!! I bet Hughes name has been mentioned somewhere on here within the last month and I bet people had a bad opinion of him. It's a ****in forum
It doesn't get me anywhere, nor am I looking for it to get me anywhere. The totally ironic thing about this thread is that it's had this effect so why start it in the first place. If Eamon had opened with let's not move on then I'm sure people would have opposed his opinion. Just like some are now.
Well I think the dangerous attitude of happy clapper is summed up perfectly by statements like… …and pair this with…. … I don’t doubt your intentions are good but what you I don’t think you recognise that those who you would perceive as ‘glass half empty’ types actually also have good intentions at heart as well Your mentality is that of a lemming. You will happily follow the club over a cliff with that attitude KoopeeArr and Bobmid suggest they was initially more towards the happy clapper side and then veered towards the anti harry cause. My pleasure is derived from when I recognise that a manager like Harry is leading us off a cliff and then eventually he leaves at a time early enough that we might not go off that cliff back into the Championship (or worse!!) So when the early voices slag him off, you get shouted down by the hardcore happy clappers and also those in the grey area my initially be on his side but over time as the evidence piles up the tide turned against him and the happy clappers became the minority. Now does the fans feelings (e.g. abuse directed at him most recently at Stoke which he definitely was aware of or the boo’s ringing round the ground when some of the R block chanted their support of him at Man U home game) not count towards his exit in anyway. Some may argue not. But I believe it does. And when the moment comes I don’t think its right for the hardcore happy clappers to put threads up prematurely saying “nothing to see here”.
I think I was happy with Harry his first 2 months. After that increasingly doubtful until about last March when even making the top 6 began to be in doubt. I hoped he would go then. And I have wanted him gone since. That never had anything to do with his personality but was all to do with how we played. The timing of his jumping ship though is a bad stain on his Managerial career. I'm with you and Peter. It's a forum and hopefully we can talk negatively as well as positively about whoever. All this he who has no name stuff is the total antithesis of what a forum should be about. Back players and Managers you don't think much of 100% at matches, but say it how you see it on here. No thanks on the OP.
Am I the only one who finds a thread about moving on from Harry slightly ironic. Surely the best way to move on is just not talk about it anymore. Let's allow his reign to quickly become lost in the distant past of QPR history. Let's discuss the next man, right or wrong choice...the players, the formations, the highs and lows. Managers who have jumped ship...can't even remember any.
Go for it...my wife is actually a knitwear designer so I've picked up quite a bit of knowledge on knitting.
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"As well as not caring we also know he wasnt good enough." Just to be a bit of a pedant Peter we don't know he wasn't good enough as we're only two thirds of the way through the season.
