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Pochettino with rose tinted glasses

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by mowgli, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. mowgli

    mowgli Well-Known Member

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    We've all done it. Accused others at looking through rose tinted glasses when commenting on Saints. But Pochettino seem to have an extra tint as he views his own wonderful ability to turn football clubs around. Funny thing is that as I remember it, he left a club in meltdown for one that had spent over £100m on players over the previous 12 months

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...laims-Tottenham-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino.html
     
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  2. Lff

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    Seems like Potty is trying to rewrite history suggesting that Koemans had a ready-made team at Southampton compared to when he arrived when we were a team with many problems that he had to turn around.

    "It was a team with a lot of problems, with players like Adam Lallana who wasn’t playing and Luke Shaw who wasn’t playing but in one and a half years we turned it round.
    We brought a lot of young players through and finished eighth. It is always easier taking over a winning team which is the case this time with Ronald [Koeman]. We came here (Spurs) and had to reinvent things. We always laugh about it because we left a team at Southampton that practically trained itself after a year and a half to come here where we had to recreate everything that we had done at Southampton, pretty much from zero, but it’s a great challenge."

    Not quite how I remember it. Under Adkins we were beginning to play really well. Potty came in and continued in the same style, albeit making us better and harder to beat along the way. Most of the players were surely in situ by then though. True he bought in Osvaldo which really helped!

    By contrast Koemans was down half a team and , theoretically, the best half.

    Oh, and, by the way, didn't Spurs finish 6th last year? 2 places higher than the "winning team" Saints.

    Full article here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...laims-Tottenham-boss-Mauricio-Pochettino.html

    Sorry, just noticed that Mowgli already posted the same article.
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Bloody cheek...the 2 players named in that snippet are no longer here...so anything MP did was irrelevant to the job faced by the Koemans.
     
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    Darn. I just posted the same thread. Perhaps they can be combined somehow.
     
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    Oh good, I get to comment again :) I expect this will be raised in Ron's press conference this afternoon and he will smile and say something anodyne about every manager contributing to Saints (which is true), but, behind the scenes, he will slowly stir his chips in mayonnaise and start to plan his revenge.
     
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  6. Piebacca

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    Clear off, Pinnochio.
     
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    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    The only way to get on in this world is to claim the credit for all the hard work of others. I have done it all my life. Look at this message board. It is my efforts that have made it the great success it is today. Had I not carefully nurtured the people who contribute to it then it would have collapsed years ago. My contributions have been cleverly designed to drill into the moderators the need for sensitivity and common sense. So over all I think I've done a pretty good job getting this message board to where it is today and in the process I have to claim the credit for giving so much pleasure to all the people who visit and contribute to the content.
     
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  8. ChilcoSaint

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    Merged
     
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  9. Clem Fandango

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    In terms of signing players, Koeman is winning. Poch's marquee signing Osvaldo, and Adkins' flop Gaston are all worth forgetting.
     
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    Not to mention Vegard!
     
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  11. mowgli

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    It does make you wonder what frustration in Poch's mind prompted him to utter such garbage. The only reason Lallana wasn't playing when he arrived was because of injury. Shaw it was accepted would emerge as a brilliant left back but was being carefully introduced to first team duties. I have no doubt Poch deeply regrets his departure which now looks like a child spitting out his dummy because his Chairman and mentor left the club.

    The reality is that we were rapidly climbing before he got here and accelerated after he left. He is a good coach though and clearly the players wanted to play for him (as they did Adkins, as they do Koeman). History, I suspect will see him rank 3rd amongst those three managers in the long term. For all his limitations, Nigel took us from Div 1 to PL in successive seasons - almost bettering the achievements of Ted Bates (well, equalling at least) - and was as honest and sincere as the day is long. You never heard Nigel give a bad word on us after he left. Similarly, Ron has an air of diplomacy about him which is winning over a lot of neutrals.

    Never was there more of an incentive for us to pinch the champions league place away from Spurs and Liverpool!!
     
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    Sour grapes from an utter ****.

    I really hope we beat them. Really don't think we will though for some reason
     
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  13. fran-MLs little camera

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    I bet the Gaston signing (which to be fair could have worked out) was down to Nicola. I am happy for Poch to carry all the blame for that albatross around our necks, Osvaldo.
     
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    This interview was carried out abroad and has been picked up by the Mail....Mauricio is discovering what others before him have found out (including Morgan)...gossiping in your own language does not mean it will not be printed here.
     
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    Pochettino can **** off.
     
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    Poch being a dick...
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

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    That's an excellent rebuttal from Nuck Illingsworth there. Add in the respective win percentages of Saints under Poch (38%) and Koeman (60%) and the fact that only a few core players from last season remain this term, and the whole sorry story becomes a complete crock of ****.
     
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