Well, there goes one of our avenues of pleasure!!! Bowyer Good signing for them. Wouldn't want the racist little sh1t within a hundred miles of my club!
Good signing for them, won't lose too much sleep about him not coming here. Were we actually interested in him or was it just paper talk?
Not sure on that one. Bowyer and Bullard could work well together if Bowyer has any legs left, if not then it would be a non-starter, given that we know Bullard has no legs/knees left.
1) He's not actually joined Ipswich yet, though it's likely he will. 2) I'm sure you'd be saying something quite different if he'd actually signed for us. 3) Why exactly is Bowyer racist? I may only have been 11 or 12 when his trial took place, but as far as I recall, the British Justice System found him not guilty on the charges brought against him of a racist attack.
Bowyer was involved in a high profile trial in Hull for taking part in a racially motivated attack, he was found not guilty but has 'form' for a few other things, the incident with Kieron Dyer sticks in my mind if you google that.
I must have missed the racist element in the Dyer handbags, or is there somewhere that says if two people have a fight, the white one's clearly racist? I also seem to recall that witnesses said the lad that was attacked made himself a target by being a bit of a nob, rather than because of his skin colour, but that could easily just have been a selective quote I picked up on as I didn't read too much about the trial.
QUOTE; Sarfraz Najeib was chased by a gang of thugs outside a Leeds nightclub in January 2000. They punched and kicked him, and broke his leg, nose and cheekbone, reducing his face to a pulp. Detective Superintendent Ed Hemsley said, "I believed there was an element of racial involvement, and I still do." But the jury was never told of the threat, "Do you want some, Paki?" that was issued to Sarfraz. Woodgate was found guilty of affray, but was given just 100 hours community service. That is less than footballer Eric Cantona got when he responded to racist abuse. Bowyer was cleared of all charges, but the judge ordered him to pay the court costs, saying his statements had been "littered with lies". "But the jury was never told..." Not sure I have your faith in the British Justice System Viking Eric.
i for one dont care and think we should stay out of what they get up to off the pitch and i personally would have loved Lee Bowyer at our club i think he is the type of player we could have done with.
"An element of racial involvement. Had it been a different person, they could equally have said "do you want some fatty, four eyes, stumpy, manc, blondie etc". It also doesn't say who made that comment nor what prompted the attack. The CPS not telling the jury implies that they didn't see it as significant to the assault.
That's the kind of response they might lap up on the City Independant board but hopefully most people on here live in the real world.
Why is that whenever there is a fight between a white bloke and a coloured bloke, the white is a racist and nothing is said about the coloured bloke? smacks of the PC Bridgade wanting to jump on the bandwagon. Why can't it just be 2 blokes having a disagreement, the only people that making it a race issue is idiot comments like above. As far as bullard is concerned, we are still in the market for him but a lot of ipswich fans are pissed with him in the way he has whored himself about after saying that he would do anything to play for us next year.
Bowyer's an obnoxious little twat, but hardly has a history of being a racist(one scrap at a club years ago when he was found not guilty is not much to base a racism claim on) and he's still a decent player, even if he is approaching the end of his career. It's not effecting their desire to sign Jimmy though, they still want him, but can't/won't stump up the money required. http://www.greenun24.co.uk/ipswich-...if_he_wins_battle_of_wills_with_hull_1_955672
Ye i really hat the way poor Lee Bowyer is picked on by all these Asians like "Just occasionally, however, little things would happen to make her worry about Bowyer's temperament. He was so obsessively jealous, she says, that he bought her a mobile phone so he could know her whereabouts every hour of the day. According to Emma there was a pattern of self-destructive behaviour, and she forgave him many times until, one night, he said something she can never pardon. Though Emma has an olive complexion, her mother is, half-Asian. Whether or not Bowyer was aware of this, the matter was not mentioned until they had been dating for 10 months, by which time he wanted them to get engaged. One night, however, when they rowed because she turned up late for a dinner date, she says he raised the question of her ethnicity. 'I was in his bedroom getting ready and he started ranting then stormed off downstairs,' she recalls. 'When he came back a few minutes later he looked at me sort of strangely and said, 'Oh, my mum's just told me something about you. He didn't use the word Paki, or Indian. He said - and I'll never forget - "My mum says you've got something 'in' you." I said, "Yes, I'm Indian", and Lee replied, "Yeah, that's what my mum said", and he started pacing up and down the floor. He went downstairs again, and when he returned he said we couldn't have a baby because it might be a "throwback". I asked what he meant, and he said, "You know, we could have a brown baby. It could be the colour of your mum."' Emma walked out, and never went back." OR " A court heard later how he and his friends were caught on video, hurling chairs and creating mayhem. Bowyer, who admitted affray, was fined £4,500: then half a week's wages. The prosecution did not suggest race was a factor. However, Mr Mia claims that a snarling, red-faced Bowyer refused to be served by 'a ****ing Paki', and he told the Daily Mail: 'If Lee Bowyer is not a racist thug then I don't know who is.' They all just make it up about our Lee, lovely boy good to his mum etc etc
God forbid, but if you ever find yourself in Court as the accused, I hope the Court relies on facts and evidence rather than the hackneyed opinion of someone that wasn't there, knew nobody that was there, has never met you, but posts on a football messageboard and thinks it's the real world.
After all the scorn you, and your fellow posters on CI, pour on the Police and CPS over the arrest of certain City "lads" for their behaviour at games, I'm amazed you quote their judgements as a reason for not believing Bowyer is racist. Perhaps amazed is the wrong word. There is a difference between being innocent until proven guilty, and being innocent. Bowyer was part of a gang that severely injured a young Pakistani man in Leeds. Woodgate, his friend, was convicted of affray in that attack. I would suggest that Bowyer not being found guilty was more down to the CPS not being able to prove he was one of those that was involved in the actual assault, rather than the fact Bowyer was innocent. There are enough quotations of incidents of racially motivated behaviour emanating from those who actually know Bowyer, for rational people to be able to draw a reasonable conclusion as to the character of the man. You can call into question all of these incidents and even cast doubt as to the legitimacy of their origin, the bottom line however is what you believe or not believe. I believe the man is a racist thug. You, on the other hand, might well deny even the existence of racism in our society.
A gang of youths chase after a single bloke shouting "Do you want some, Paki?" Then they proceed to beat him to a pulp including biting his face so badly that he was scarred for life. I'm not sure what 'facts' the jury were relying on but it sort of sounds racial to me.
Only according to one person, whose evidence wasn't deemed strong enough to be presented. The reason for the attack STILL hasn't been mentioned on here. IF there was evidence of a racial element, the prosecution would have leapt at the opportunity to add it to the list. If it was remotely acceptable as evidence it would have made their job so much easier. As someone mentioned, the Police and CPS need only the minimum of evidence to action football or race related cases. Some people will only believe what they want to believe and hurl allegations of race around in an attempt to silence others. I'm not saying Bowyers squeaky, he comes across as an obnoxious twat, but he seems to be equally as obnoxious to all races.
