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  1. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I predict that you'll be totally amazed with what comes out of the LHC over the next few years. That is all <ok>
     
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    I've totally amazed by what I find in the shower drain when I have to clean it, so yeah I agree <laugh>

    My ONLY issue the LHC is, no one else can replicate the work done there unless they have a few billion $ lying around
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'd be more interested in the fusion project personally.

    one LHC is enough.

    practical application of technology is where peopel benefit. discover away... please do... but the application is where its at for me.
     
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    Excellent point MITO, I've banged on a lot about "the waste of trillions researching stuff that has no practical applications" quite often.
    A lot more cash could go into energy tech than is currnetly alloted. For example ITER https://www.iter.org/proj#milestones
     
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  5. astro

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    The practical application of discoveries cannot be known in advance. That's why they're called discoveries, not knowneries.

    The internet you are now using wouldn't exist without CERN.
     
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    Packet switching was the catalyst for the internet we know today and it had nothing to do with CERN.

    In what way do you mean CERN are responsible for the internet?
     
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    C(lie)mate change occupies the time of so many scientists and absorbs almsot 27 billion a year, over half of which is committed to media.

    You have other scientific research that wasted time on making steak out of poo when we produce food enough to feed 12 billion people with a 7.something billion global population, and throw a vast quantity of it into the bin. Monsanto ditto
     
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  8. astro

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    So relatively speaking costs nothing then?
     
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    Any money spent on proving the big bang happened is a complete waste of time. CERN particle physics experiements may well have future applications but there is nothing WMAP and the vast sums it absorbed can give us. Especially when it's a fabrication. NASA do gain benefits from much of what htey do but also, much of what they do is wasted money.

    Put it this way, the money spent on military advancement vastly outweighs anything else. The US space military secret programs get much MUCH mroe funding than NASA, NASA had to turn the ****ing lights off last year because funding was suspended due to congress not signing the cheques
     
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    Dunno, 27 billion into energy tech is a boost, cancer research, infectious and incurable diseases, heck put it into education, anything rather than spending 27 billion a year commiting a fraud :D
     
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    So the need for CERN scientists to be able to share large amounts of data was completely irrelevant and massively coincidental? In your world what was the reason, apart from "packet switching"?
     
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    It's not a fraud. In science the truth always comes out. This is not religion or politics or the military or banking.
     
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    One geological historian put into context, and this seals the deal for me. Scientific data shows the earth during glacial periods had a CO2 ppm of between 2000 and 4000. This is accepted as correct. He went on to say that where do people think all the things like vast belts of chalk came from, a CO2 rich atmosphere.

    Now, Co2 at the time of the global warming scam was 300+ppm. Now over 400 approaching 500ppm so, logically one would surmise that if the earth was a freaking ice ball and CO2 was over 2000ppm.. how does CO2 cause anthropological warming ;)

    This is without even getting into the intentional and well published fraudulent discussions of scientists and the "caught red handed" manipulating and outright doctoring of data. I mean, they discussed people cottoning on to the fact the earth was cooling and the need to "redefine" global warming as something more media friendly.

    But the whole fraud is another matter. It's not bad science, it is a fraud. An intentional fraud. That's my opinion and not only mine, one shared by many scientists (no they don;t work for oil) that myth is stupid because we are hooked on oil and will be like crack heads when it starts to run out and when has environment ever taken precedence over economy? Never is when <laugh> Lets not forget China just got the OK to increase their emissions till 2030!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then they will have their limit set, this is the agreement just made with the US last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but we must announce emergencies and ACT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #makesnosense
    unless it is a lie, C(lie)mate change :D

    our climate system starts at the bottom of the ocean and extends to the heliosphere. When the Sun's EM shield is not protecting us galactic energy also becomes part of this system, we are part of it but we are a tiny input, to count us and not the sun and galactic energy, makes their models less than useless which is why they were in some cases over 400% off the mark!

    They said in the early 2000s, no snow in the UK by 2010 <laugh>
     
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    **** me I am yammering outa me today, I need a sedative. <laugh>
     
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    There are 400 billion trees in the Amazon alone. There are only 7 billion people in the world, and for most of human civilisation the number was much lower than that.

    How can humans possibly have an impact on trees?

    #makesnosense

    Deforestation is a fraud created by biologists and conservationists.

    There is zero human impact on the environment.

    My opinion is backed up by someone on the internet who has no credentials and isn't being paid off.

    I have even personally seen trees planted where no tree previously exist. That wasn't reported by the media though.

    #conspiracy
     
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  16. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    It's a conspiracy! All CERN employees are total charlatans. Not a scientist among them <laugh>
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Look, MITO. It's utterly impossible for us to know what the LHC will ultimately yield and therefore what incredible technological innovations will evolve from the discoveries.
     
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  18. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    Did you know ? If you run around naked at 88 miles per hour in circles with a boner, it's theoretically possible to penetrate your own anus, thus creating a stable time loop of high speed hyper cyclone buttsex.
     
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    Yeah but you'd be unable to jizz because it would create a pitcher/catcher paradox

    #blueshiftedballs
     
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  20. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    indeed which is why we perv scientists call that scenario the boner paradox
     
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