until you manage a PL team then shut the **** up with your luck nonsense, he didn't luck into **** all, we had players come players go and players injured and players who turned out to be ****(badon Lovren), he worked on it and came up with a solution, that's how fixing problems work dummy Sahko and Can and Coutinho plus the realisation that Lovren is **** and not playng Gerrard every game are a good part of why we are playing well, luck? Rodgers said 2nd half we'd see the real team and he was as good as his word. Would you have played Can in that position? I doubt it As for loving Rodgers, yet again you are WRONG ledonidas, I just never hated him. I only criticised his signing of Balotelli and a few others. I was aware of the changes and so was patient. If and I suspect we won't make top 4, it will be because of the first dreadful half of the season. And Rodgers will make mistakes, everyone ****ing does, and you don't turn on them the minute **** goes bad. If you loved him last season, that makes what you say now even more unsavoury. If I didn't know better I might call you plastic
Well done So until someone manages a prem team they can have no opinion Ergo I need not read a single word more of this seeing obviously you can have no opinion either
You mean like Martinez? #fraud manager lucky there are some absolutely gash teams queuing to fill up the relegation spots
Which is fine, that's what happened but it was even worse that that as while any team stripped like that, chelsea included would be much worse we fell so far off that the reality of not only only one world class player who left but that many others were way off the standard even of top 6 showed clearly In any event the fact that this system seems to get the best out of what we've got in the same way as last seasons formula got the most out of last years team. Both systems happened along months into the seasons this time round we were far worse off but luckily all the teams have had low point totals at this stage so the hope is there that we can do something
Did we fall that far? We over acheieved last year no doubt. We were a team of players that were good enough to challenge for top 4 but we had 3 standout forwards that blew teams away which pushed us up. Not many teams go from 7th to challenge for the title and maintain it. It should be a gradual climb... 7th then go for 4th then solidify 4th before pushing on for the title. We skipped the middle part and then lost 2/3rds of what made us so successful.
Andy Carroll, all the papers banging on about his revenge poor sod gets injured. Never goes his way at Anfield does it
Alan Shearer on Sturridge: "he's done more in twenty minutes than Balotelli's done all season" #nailedit
No he just gets lucky in those ones.. like how he got lucky signing Sturridge and Coutinho and got lucky playing a 442 diamond last year to accommodate the 2 in forms strikers in the league while moving a small winger like Sterling to the top of a diamond in CM. An he got lucky that keepers just played **** against us and conceded a lot of goals last year #luckymanager
I fail to see how people can unquestioningly back Rodgers when the past 5 months have shown him to be pretty poor tactically, in choosing a starting XI and in transfers. I don't believe more than a tiny minority want him sacked, but to not question his ability out of simple curiosity is suspect. Consistently playing Johnson, Gerrard, Lovren and Balotelli until injuries forced his hand is dodgy at best. Starting the season with the same **** formation and results that got us the same **** results in his first season tells us that he's determined to make 'his' system work and will only change it after it's failed for a few months and injuries no longer make it possible. Credit for finding a 3-4-3 which works and very few PL managers have ever used successfully, but the big question for me is why did it take so long to drop the poor performers and why does he keep going back to formations/player partnerships which clearly don't work. I don't think there's anything wrong (or plastic ) about raising questions. That does not mean I've ever wanted him sacked. It means I don't follow someone blindly just because we're now getting good results and can happily blame the last 5 months on losing Suarez and Sturridge - of which he had plenty of time to plan ahead for replacements and backups and ended up with two donkeys instead, not a good sign of a manager either, incidentally.
I don't think anyone is blindly following him at all. A lot of people questioned him when things weren't going right for the same reason you pointed out above, players who weren't performing kept their places while others like Can/Manquillo/Lucas weren't getting a chance. However he's turned things around and done it by trying something different. He has to be given credit for that. Talking about how he has only done that through luck like MITO did above is stupid in my opinion. When does it stop becoming luck and start becoming skill? Surely he didn't just pick a formation and player positions out of a hat and it happened to work? Who would have thought about playing Can at RBC, not many of us but Rodgers obviously saw something in training and went for him rather than Lovren/Johnson/Manquillo. What about Markovic at RWB or pushing Sterling up top instead of playing a proper forward like Lambert? Would have been easy to do that but he chose the riskier option and it worked to a degree.
Sorry, but like MITO said, he lucked into it (again). All the ridghtbacks injured (doesn`t seem to like Manquillo) so use Marko as wingback, with wingback needs three centrebacks, Lovren useless, Kolo ****ed off to ACON, next best thing Can (big, strong and athletic with a good defensive mind). Needs a defensive mid then, gerrard gets injured so Lucas comes in. Needs pace up front, **** it Steriling is fast, lets try him (doesn`t matter if he can finish or not) he will be a nuscience. He had very little choice!
Stop being so absolute MITO. Of course you can have your opinion. Am I not allowed have my opinion on your opinion?
It's not about unquestioning loyalty, it's about patience. Yes he has made mistakes, so have the managers of the top two teams, but they have plenty of players that can bail them out, we've lacked the one thing we needed to bail us out, someone who can regularly put away the many chances we created. Rodgers doesn't do well and gets stick, fair enough, but when he nails it, then the same call it luck. f u c k o f f #cantwin What makes me laugh is, Rodgers gets the blame entirely.. for the first half of the season. Who knew Lovren would be a catastrophe? Who knew Badon would be atrocious or that Ming would be awful or that Sterling couldn't kick snow off of a rope? Those things gave us a bad start and confidence certainly got hit. Our defence had no confidence and neither did ming and when it's like that the rest of the team will also lack confidence, literally everyting was not going well bar the steady performances of Cout and Sterling. Then there were certain players that made errors that directly cost us points, like Moreno. All in all, it's a tough job with a myriad of elements and everything was all over the shop. Key elements Suarez going Studge injured Lovren crap Badon Crap Ming poor Can's time needed to get fit and up to speed. Lallana was poor to begin with and poor again yesterday tbh Gerrard legs have really gone over the summer, he lost 4 yards never mind one Rodgers can only take so much blame, the players also have to take some blame and circumstances also play a part. it's not so simple and those simplifying it as down to just this or that is a little silly.
Pretty muh, preparing for and playing games, training, working on tactics over all and per game, is a lot of work. Saying "**** all that it was luck" is just unfair to Rodgers. People call Maureen a great tactical manager and he has a great squad and we bashed them at Anfield, people might try say Chelsea were poor but in that game we made them poor 100%, we suffocated their creativity and even Hazard (dive apart) created nothing, those things don't just happen, they are a result of hard work and preparation for that game and the same yesterday, we were tactically spot on for the hammers and their physical game. We are now hard to break down and playing lovely attacking football, that's something we were not doing last season and is actually an improvement on last season in that respect. If only we'd have shelled out 30+ for a top striker.. ifs and buts yes but that's what rankles with me most
I've been a critic of BR's tenure in all but the second half of last year and even then I had my reservations due to our inability to defend. Until he figures out how to get balance into a team, I always will be. Having said that, I will judge him again at the end of the season and even then, he needs the first half of next season to prove that his signings are worth the massive investment made, they'd have had a full 12 months here and should hit the ground running. During that time, I may get frustrated and question him but fact is, it takes time to build. I'd say that if he gets us fourth this year, he's done very well given the loss of the best two strikers of last year (until now). Frankly, if he gets lucky getting there, I don't care. We seem to be getting a bit of our swagger back and we're finally keeping a couple of clean sheets. Let's hope it continues
Rodgers has to be praised at least for giving sterling 3 weeks off. That was a big call and pretty rare nowadays. But look at sterling now, unstoppable
Rodgers was awful for the first half of the season - his preferred signings I.e Soton lads is what really cost us, and the committees Balotelli. Playing the 4321, persistence in picking the same **** players week in week out is what will ultimately cost us if we don't get CL. Credit for changing the system and now picking the right players - but I still have my reservations because I feel he was forced into it. He certainly deserves credit for picking Can and Markovic in their current roles. Personally, unless he accepts that he needs help in certain areas ie defending, and there is a clear structure re transfers (eg either he or the committee have the final say), then I don't see him ever succeeding at a big club. He has always been poor defensively and there is no signs that it's going to improve. Some will point to recent results - simply picking better defenders, adding another defender, and playing an actual DM is not 'good coaching'. If the defence were actually coached well, we wouldn't be so shocking at set pieces. All in all, I think he's an excellent attacking coach, is pretty good at developing youth but he has an awful eye for talent and is below average re defending.
