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  1. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    I'm waiting for Doha to come on and tell us it's a cool 30c
     
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  2. lifecheshirewhite

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    Got to agree with you Whitejock :emoticon-0148-yes: its the scotland national team that's league 1 standard the SPL more league 2.<whistle>
     
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    Jock its accepted throughout football that Scot Prem is Championship standard, so it would follow that teams doing badly in the league could be L1 standard. Yes there can be exceptions if Celtic play to Prem standard but would struggle for a season in the Prem. So far be it for me to be knocking Scottish football, but how can you say that our new loanees are as good as prem players or top championship players when they have hardly played
     
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  4. Whitejock

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    'Throughout football' - does that include anywhere outside of your house? You've just made it up, haven't you? Show me evidence - should be a doddle if everyone in football but me knows it. You might even be right! My thinking is that you're wrongly hyping up the PL, rather than dissing the SPL. But I freely admit that this is just me thinking - I don't have any evidence to support it.

    And show me where I said that our new loanees are as good as PL players? I know nothing about them. Something else you've made up. Or does everyone throughout football but me know that I said it (but just can't prove it)?

    No smiley. Not pleased.
     
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  5. Whitejock

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    Been a while since you checked out the Scotland results, isn't it. Apart from england having a lucky win, he results are quite impressive. If this continues, I might even not drink on one of my upcoming trips! :grin:
     
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    expenses that he is incurring, while incarcerated, are anythinglike as much as that.There is then a schedule of on-going monthly commitments andliabilities which stretches the imagination almost to breakingpoint. There is a claim in respect of the mortgage on his propertyin Dubai but that property, he has agreed, should be sold andone cannot help feeling that those monthly commitments willterminate very soon. If, in the meantime, there is a failure to paya mortgage instalment, that is unlikely to be of any significance.Indeed, one of the schedules that he has produced demonstratesthat he already has failed to pay 37,000 dirhams worth ofmortgage payments, ie two months' worth.He then makes claims, as if the property was still occupied, inrespect of electricity, TV and cleaners. Then he turns to theUnited Kingdom and puts forward a range of expenses, including£1,000 a month on telephone, £500 a month on electricity, waterand heating, £3,000 a month for payments to a partner, nearlyabout $10,000 "PR/Media", 30,000 dirhams a month for a PA, forsalary and travel, £1,000 a month for gym membership. One cango on. On top of which, despite the fact that one of them isalready massively overdrawn, he is suggesting he wants tospend £2,000 on his two credit cards, despite the fact he is incustody.
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    Mr Bodnar, who appears for the claimant, who has produced anelaborate and helpful skeleton argument which spells out in somedetail the background to this case and the extent to which theclaimant's feel justified in asserting, with some confidence, thatMr Haigh has been guilty of serious fraud and in respect ofwhich, there is no challenge that they have a good prima faciacase, says correctly that where, as here, the claimant's justifiablyadvanced an assertion that Mr Haigh, the defendant, haseffectively stolen their money and that they are in a position totrace it or treat the money or its equivalent as having aproprietary interest in it, is the circumstance in which the courtshould be very careful before allowing the defendant to spendmoney which is, in effect, the claimant's. That point, in my judgement, is well made.It may be that there are more elaborate and helpful explanationsfor some of the figures that have been put before the court but Iconfess that Mr Haigh, despite the difficulties in communicationwith his solicitor, has taken a considerable time to say very littleabout his circumstance, let alone about the complaints that arebeing made against him. The court would need to be persuadedthat the figure that is presently available to him as permissibleliving expenses, is clearly too low. The burden is on him tosatisfy the court that it is clearly too low and needs, at least onhis case, to be more than doubled. I confess I am whollyunpersuaded that the existing allowance of $2,050 per week is
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    inappropriate, certainly while Mr Haigh is in custody. No doubtthe defendant, when he emerges from custody, currently if hethinks appropriate, come back to the court and ask for a higherfigure. If he does, he will need to produce more convincingmaterial than he has so far.So, I refuse the application to vary the completing order toincrease the living expenses.ROBERT LAWSON: Your Honour, may I just make a point?JUSTICE SIR DAVID STEEL: Yes.ROBERT LAWSON: He does not get $2,050 whilst he is in custody. You need to dealwith that point. The way you have just spoken, suggests --JUSTICE SIR DAVID STEEL: I am so sorry. Presently it is $2,050 per week.ROBERT LAWSON: When he is not in custody.JUSTICE SIR DAVID STEEL: You are quite right. Let me rephrase what I have justsaid. The present order is that he is entitled, when not incustody, to expend living expenses in the region of $2,050 perweek. I am not persuaded from the material presently availablethat if and when he emerges from custody, that is a figure whichis inappropriate. If he wishes to come back to the court in due
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    It's ok, the poor ****er thinks thinks the spl is better than league 1.
    On that basis he is outside covered in factor 30 trying to get a tan in the snow.
     
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  12. Chippy / Glory

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    Wtf is this?

    It is very long, it might be interesting but is so typo ridden it looks like sniffer/60 wrote it.
     
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  18. Mr Wolves-White

    Mr Wolves-White Well-Known Member

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    Ah....

    If it ain't English then it's ****
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

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    More a case of, if it is scots it is......
     
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  20. Mr Wolves-White

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    Fair does Glory
     
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