Many charities send out press releases about large contributions and see it as a way of increasing the profile of the charity. Knocking Assem Allams generosity is pathetic. He wants to be seen as a philanthropist and there is nothing wrong with that in fact it is commendable. You are attacking a donation that many families have benefited from in Hull including mine and if people like you stop people such as Assam Allam supporting local charities, do you think that you will be thanked for it?
think you need to read the thread properly - I was having my charity giving credentials questioned - all I said was unlike Allam, I don't need to have my name spread all over the place and in percentage terms I probably donate more - does that make me a philanthropist as well
Charon's biggest achievement in his pathetic life was insulting some Cardiff fans then managing to leggit and not get his head kicked in, back in his glory days. Sadly, due to age and arthritis, he's now reduced to being a keyboard warrior online and a tutter at games. What a ****ing hero he is.
What a load of **** - is that the best you can come up with - I imagine that your best achievement was someone dropping a pound coin into your cap as you sat on the pavement looking for money to buy one more bottle of thunderbird - you sad little twat
Excellent. Touched a nerve. I had a feeling you wouldn't like being stood up to and called out about criticising someone who's achieved more than you and your entire bloodline. Online I see you're as brave as in the glory days when your mates "had your back". On your own of course, spineless, underachieving ****. <tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut><tut> Why don't you tell us a story of travelling to Torquay with 5 of you in a Cortina, back when YOU were the MAN.
Scuttle back into your hole you ****ing wretch. Even anonymously you couldnt say how much you give. But as you say its tax deductable so the more you give the bigger **** you are.
Given we have 16000+season tickets and 2500ish registered users on this forum, I would say it's a fair bet that there are many who don't (or can't).
H Evidence would suggest the he IS wanting both Hull and City removed from as many areas as he can - check out the front cover of the match day programme - both Hull and City have now been removed (it is now just official match day programme). Check out the ads for forthcoming matches on the bill boards - there is no mention of either Hull or City. It was the same on the season card application forms, its the same on the St. Stephens Shopping Centre Associates ad, etc. Its everything to do with the spat with the Hull City Council and nothing at all to do with any potential global sponsorship.
Although this may be true, you have to look at the whole thing the other way round as well. The club is promoting itself as Tigers. So the logic is Hull and City are not needed to sell what's on offer in Hull. If you want an example, look how Rovers is instantly associated in Hull as HKR, but means nothing outside of the area. So local marketing does not need Hull or Kingston. The club can use whatever it wants in any area not controlled by the FA and that is exactly what is happening. The loss of identity on the programmes has not led to a drop in sales, has the shop had less visitors and have gates dropped? Unless there is a significant change in the income of the club, the rebranding will continue. Starting locally, progressing to national level and then global. My point is that this is the introduction of Tigers not the removal of Hull and City in the eyes of the club.
Something that will look increasing ridiculous beyond the FA reconfirming their decision. And something that will look like rank stupidity if we get relegated.
I suspect that the FA's ruling will have no effect on the tide of change. Even if it rules that the process was wrong. There is nothing to stop the marketing strategy and I suspect "Tigers" will now be the norm in every form of communication other than the playing name. Relegation will only stem the global aspect. From the owners, the staff and players, the use of Tigers will increase. Maybe you should have kept Tigers Co op, OLM.
As longer term fans feel more and more let down and drift away feeling unsupported and unrepresented, probably never to return, they're replaced by people less likely to be bothered by the name change. The supporters trust needs to show it understands and can represent fans. In my view it's missed several easy opportunities to do this, and only seems to speak out on the name change.
It's not being marketed as 'Tigers', it's being marketed as 'Hull Tigers', something that will look increasingly ridiculous once the FA have confirmed their ruling. If we're relegated, the 2,500 new season ticket holders are likely to disappear, the 3,000 season ticket holders lost this season are unlikely to return and there are a significant amount of people planning on not renewing season tickets next season whatever league we're in(obviously they won't all stop going to games, but many who have decided to pick and choose their games this season and happy they did so and I expect others to follow suit next season). The Tigers co-op comment makes absolutely no sense to me.
It has nothing to do with marketing and everything to do with the position Assem Allam finds himself in. Calling us Tigers isn't going to replace the millions we lose from the TV deal, nor will it help him get his money back. I doubt whether it will get us any extra revenue next season. Our performances on the pitch up to now haven't set the world alight. I suspect plucky Burnley have got more international coverage and interest then us. You are right though this will be a long war of attrition between the club and "Hull City" supporters.
DMD has hit the nail on the head. Right from the very start the club identified its customer base ( not supporters, customers) it place them in three groups. The club is not interested in the old guard, those who supported it through thick and thin, in their words the tin rattlers. It does not have to attract the core supporters, those who make up the main element of season card sales, who rarely travel away. It has to be attractive to new "customers", those who only want to see PL football and who want to be identified with success and not the failings of the past. I personally think the first and second group are vital, but the club does not. Why keep the first group happy? It already has the second group hooked. So it aims to attract more of the third group. I fall easily into the second group, I admire the first and only welcome the third because it makes being in the second group more comfortable. OLM I think you will see Tigers more and more and Hull City as well as Hull Tigers being used less, throughout the club.
