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Gomis , thanks for the memories .

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Matthew Bound Still Lurks, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. Stereo

    Stereo Well-Known Member

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    We seem to have a right bunch of muppets running our club at the moment when it comes to transfers huh ?
     
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  2. Yankee_Jack

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    Correct on the signing on fee - at least that's my understanding. However, the club taking the loanee may be required to pay a loan fee in addition to the wages, so we might recoup that some of the amortization of the sign-on. What a loan does is free up cash for a player with a better fit in our needs in terms of production, style and attitude.
     
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  3. Bob the slob

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    I thought his signing on fee was included in his wages, hence the reason it was paid over 4 years. He' s getting cash on top of that as well?? <doh>
     
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  4. Sbulby

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    Interesting article on Walesonline website, an interview with James Beatie who has spent a week down at the Liberty last week. Not only talking up Monk but Gomis as well, pointing out how good a player he is and also a nice bloke into the bargain, staying behind for extra training most days. Are we slagging him off prematurely, the press are renound for reporting things out of context.
     
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  5. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    Probably a lot in what you say about journos, but if what Gomis has been saying is true our management really need to more careful and possibly own up and say things didn't pan out as expected, Gomis has been fantastic in graining and we can only try to make things right starting with the second part of the season.
    If Gomis is making it up hang him to dry.

    None of that really explains his contract though - which really does leave us in a no win situation, who pays an £8mn signing on fee to a 29 year old untried in the Premier League striker?
     
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  6. swanseaandproud

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    None of this answers the question on why other teams want him...I think there is a hell of a lot of bullshit written about gomis especially as its known that he is training as good as anyone every day and gets on with his team mates as one of the lads. We all know how the press and media works and love a good story whether its true or not, They done the same with ash with some saying he had already left the club ..(he was on holiday ) <laugh> Like monk says "dont believe everything you read" as we cant stop exaggerated rumours.
     
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  7. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Worth a read imo , an outsiders perspective

    A blog on the recent unrest over the future of Swansea City striker Bafetimbi Gomis.
    Wilfried Bony was expected to be the main topic of conversation regarding Swansea City during the current transfer window, but following his lucrative move to Manchester City, one that many now consider to be in the best interests of all parties involved, the Ivorian has departed for the Etihad Stadium via the African Cup of Nations in exchange for a rather large cheque and add-ons with relatively little fuss. However, sitting in Bony’s shadow during the course of the current campaign has been summer signing Bafetimbi Gomis, and with the spotlight now firmly-fixed in his favour, he and his entourage have wasted little time in ensuring the bulb shines permanently on the Frenchman and his future. Despite the professional opportunity of a starting place offered by Bony’s departure, Gomis has taken to the press and the relentless media interest in the Premier League to criticise the club that brought him to the billionaires playground in the first place, and with it do everything in his power to engineer a move away from the Liberty Stadium.
    Playing second-fiddle to goalscoring fan-favourite Wilfried Bony, Gomis has managed just one Premier League goal this season, but being the winner against Arsenal in November it naturally carried a little more weight. However, Bony’s transfer opened the pathway for Gomis to headline the attack for the remainder of the current season and the opportunity to end the first year of his four-year contract on a high. Criticism of the club and the promises of manager Garry Monk have now left his role in question, but while Swansea City fans debate both the merits and meanings of his recent TV sulk, the board are quickly learning about the murky depths that those who exploit the countless riches of the Premier League will sink to in order to take their maximum share in this most lucrative of footballing times. The financial sums generated are higher than ever before, but where there is hard cash to be made, professional integrity will inevitably take a backseat.
    Swansea City have enjoyed an incredible rise both on and off the field during the course of the last decade, their plight and subsequent progression are well-documented, but the case of Bafetimbi Gomis offers another steep learning curve for the board on what it means to dine at the very top table of the footballing world. Despite their accelerated trajectory, Swansea City fans have quickly become accustomed to being let down by their temporary heroes. With the turnover of playing staff higher than ever before, players are now considered little more than stock commodities that can be traded and sold to the highest bidder. But with any major financial deal, there are more brokers, traders and motives involved behind the scenes than what are immediately apparent, and while Bafetimbi Gomis prostitutes his professional services, his agent pimps his client’s wares through the media marketplace that provides the platform for increased trade.
    Although Bafetimbi Gomis has highlighted professional concerns for his Swansea City unrest, the real reason for his criticism sits with his, and his agents, potential financial gain. Before debating the logical business sense behind the contract that Gomis signed last summer, it is important to clarify exactly what has been reported. Allegedly, Gomis arrived at the club on a free transfer after his contract at French club Lyon expired, but a signing-on fee of £8m would be added to his £55,000 weekly wage and paid over the course of the four-year deal that he agreed to. However, should he depart the club for whatever reason before the completion of his contract, the remainder of his signing-on fee will be paid to Gomis in full. Who actually pays it would be a matter for his next club, Swansea City and his agent to argue over at the time of any subsequent transfer, but it would mean that a move for Gomis would guarantee him with a very healthy injection of cash, regardless of who’s pocket it is paid from.
    And so the mystery over his criticism of the club and his doubts over his future quickly unravel. With this being the Premier League, serious cash is generally always the explanation, regardless of the problem. But to understand the motive, you also have to understand the man. Bafetimbi Gomis turns 30 later this year. He has spent his entire professional career in France, playing in a national league that sits in the dark financial shadows of its English equivalent. The two clubs that he has played for between 2004 and 2014, Saint-Etienne and Lyon, do not boast the financial wealth of their more high-profile league rivals, and while Gomis has enjoyed a lucrative career he has yet to manufacture himself a big pay-day until now. His options are simple, he can stay at Swansea City for the duration of his contract and earn the biggest wage of his career, at which time he would be 33 and unlikely to command the same salary again. Alternatively, he can manipulate potential suitors for the final few years of his professional life, and make multiple transfers while his stock remains high in the money-pit playground of the Premier League. It seems the latter has already been agreed as the preferred option.
    But why have Swansea City allowed themselves to become a pawn in this financial game of one man’s greed? There are many reasons why the club chose to offer Gomis such a contract. It made financial sense to stagger and incorporate his signing-on fee into his salary, and it is fair to assume that Garry Monk would have believed from any talks held with Gomis about his ambitions that he would remain for at least the majority of his contract. But there is a supporter point of view to consider too, and the fact that the Swansea City board predominantly consists of supporters who have played the biggest part of all in their incredible story. Like all fans, logic can find itself far removed when it comes to football, and while the board have shown business maturity in their financial approach to date, they are still adjusting to the Premier League and the dangers that lurk in its murky waters. Naivety appears to have cost them in the case of Bafetimbi Gomis, and the mutually agreed offer that brought him to the club last summer has served only to provide the striker with the platform he needed to accelerate the removal of the financial bounty contained within.
    What the future holds for Bafetimbi Gomis is yet to be confirmed, and while Monk is adamant his rebellious forward will stay at the club, the last problem he needs is a disruptive influence in the dressing room. Like his superiors at the club, Monk is also quickly learning about the ugly nature of Premier League, and Gomis’s biggest contribution to the club may yet be in the education provided by his actions. The financial immorality of the Premier League has caused significant splits between players, clubs and fans in recent years. Whatever the outcome of the Bafetimbi Gomis affair, there will be disillusionment from the supporters who continue to contribute to his inflated salary each week, and their feelings will be shared by the supporters who represent the club as its directors. Speculation continues over foreign investment at the club, and if the Premier League means dealing with exploitive characters like Gomis and those that represent him, a takeover only becomes more and more inevitable
     
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  8. Sbulby

    Sbulby Well-Known Member

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    This is the work of Mark Pitman I believe, it's an interesting perspective but no more factual than anyone else's opinion on this forum.
     
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  9. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    Its a blog and nothing more than an individual opinion like yours mine and everyone else's. Bloggers are nothing more than wanna be reporters and know no more than you or me..<ok>
     
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  10. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    yes it was . even though it was an opinion I put it out there as it was from, as I posted, an outsiders opinion /perspective
     
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  11. NorfolkSwan

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    It's also very nicely written and a succinct outline of what many of us are thinking about the situation. Intersting to see how all this will pan out over he next week or so.

    Thought the crowd were really behind him on Saturday, singing his name throughout the match...if he's still here next week and plays....will be interested to see if that's still the case.
     
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    A good read.Thanks.
     
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  13. LIBERTARIAN

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    Danny Ings' name cropped up a week or so ago,but it all went quiet. Did I miss something? Has he been considered and rejected?

    Anyone got any feedback. He has a good record for finding the back of the net.
     
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    Just testing. B7-u_FvCIAEvC-0.jpeg
     
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  17. swanseaandproud

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    Bloody right he should stay. he dont have a leg to stand on and if he dont perform then he can forget about playing at a bigger club as a league 2 club would turn their noses up at him. He got one choice and one choice only for the next 4 years and that is to show what he has got or remain on the bench as a bit part player for the next 4 years that will finish his career good and proper. He took the kings shilling so its up to him...he is going nowhere...
     
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  18. Terror ball

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    He's got lots of choices, that's kind of the point. :)
     
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  19. swanseaandproud

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    Like what ?? there is no buy out clause as i checked tonight. So come on clever clogs what can he do without our say so. he is on a water tight 4 year contract..<ok>
     
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  20. Terror ball

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    He's in the driving seat and if he wants to leave he will.

    What do you think we'll do? Keep him in the reserves until he's 33 on £80k + a week? <laugh>
    This time when you are inevitably proved wrong do have the good grace to admit it.

    I'll bookmark this thread and no doubt we'll be back here in the summer for your serving of humble pie....I love your inside info <laugh>
    Remember you stated there was no way Chico was going?
    Big mouth ****ing fantasist.
     
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