http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ickets-put-premier-league-on-top-9994111.html I just wanted to point this side of the story out. I am not so interested in the top 10 we all know that stuff. Its the fact that small clubs in england are getting such a huge amount of money compared to other bigger storied clubs in europe this comment is funny "That is the caveat to the Rich List’s tale of English financial muscle. Most of it goes straight through clubs to the players – “prune juice economics”, as Alan Sugar once said." Everton are the 20th biggest revenue in world football. Well done to them i suppose Mr Benetiz's Napoli are only 17 mil ahead of them. it seems even burnley turn up in the top 40 clubs globally do to their share.
I haven't done a great deal of research into this, but I believe that average ticket prices in the Bundesliga are about a quarter of those in the EPL. There must be some serious ripping-off going on here.
TV rights money from the new deal. If I remember correctly Cardiff who finished bottom of the league last season took home about 68 mil which was more than what United took the previous season as champions. What shocked me is where the hell did citeh get all that cash from? We apparently make more money than them on match day, have a bigger kit deal and shirt sponsor and so called fan base yet they raked in all that cash. Unless there is some form of creative accounting, I don't see how they can make all that cash.
German clubs are able to subsidise ticket prices because they have big commercial deals in place - I know this is certainly the case for Bayern, not sure about the rest of the teams.
City are a different animal to Chelsea. City have invested a lot in their infrastructure, commercial deals, global partnerships. I believe within a few years, they'll be in a position where they become self sustainable.
As was said the other day (I think it was Tobes) when discussing re-sale of tickets (a Everton trying to sell them at £2k for the derby ), its a supply and demand market. Tickets go for whatever price people are willing to pay. Whether its right or wrong doesn't seem to matter in this country.
True- and I disagreed with Tobes then, and still do, although I think this point is slightly different. Supply and demand sounds wonderful if said quickly, but how many people stop to think of the ramifications? Football is (or was) a grass-roots game, played mostly for and by the working classes. Increasing ticket prices may be ok for the sellers because there are still those in a higher demographic who can afford it, but it is increasingly pricing out those for whom it is the traditional form of spectator sport ( or causing them to spend a disproportionate amount of their income). Hence the rise of the "prawn sandwich brigade" for whom football is currently trendy. So the clubs can get more money and everyone thinks that's fine, but it isn't what the game was all about when I was a kid. So I have to move with the times, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Exactly the Etihad deal is a long term one so you'd think one has to amortize that amount over the period of the deal. What revenue stream to Citeh have over Liverpool?? Even as Champions, Liverpool still made more than City from the TV deal last season. Or they probably have 10 million shirts bought by some shop in the UAE.
on ticket prices.... that ship sailed ten years ago. now its continual tv pirce hikes and needing 2 at least channels not including what the club want to take off you too just to pay this tv money to burnely and everton no the average punter is priced out of going to games, families are certainly and now the average punter is just about priced out of watching too. thats when it implodes.. suddenly one day the teams have half the cash and all the big fat player contracts and all hell breaks loose. if a tv station folds its oh oh. i can see the illegal streaming only going on more and more.
Problem is, how does it change? Clubs values are based on their annual turnover capabilities, no owner is going to accept a hit on their asset to see fairer priced tickets. No club is going to want to lesson their chances of being the best they can possibly be either and unfortunately the modern game is all about who has the most money. Then we come to players and their wages, can clubs afford to sustain players wages if the ticket prices were dropped? How long would it take implement a wage reduction? Would the player stick around when they could earn more elsewhere (because of lower taxes in other countries). Really, the implementation should ideally come from Fifa / UEFA but there are a other issues there too. They're only interested in money themselves so wouldn't be keen on seeing any decrease anywhere that may have a knock on effect (weakened England teams would see less TV money etc). The issue is only in this country and we all know how much of a **** they care about us I'd love to see ticket prices reduced. I'd love to see wage levels reduced too. But its just never going to happen IMO
They have invested in big football teams across the glove i.e. New York, Melbourne, so they have a presence in those markets, and can push their own Man City gear at the same time. They also have a very big deal with Nissan.
Liverpool's finances look pretty good and it's incredible that we're in the Top 10 without CL football (these figures was before we qualified). FSG have done a great job on increasing commercial revenue, thus ensuring we become self sustainable. Long way to go, and hopefully the stadium expansion should raise another £20m in revenue, not including naming rights for the stand.
I can't see a solution, I'm just doing my bit for the Grumpy Old Git fraternity. It's inevitable in a world where money rules all.
Solution and I think the inevitable are two different things I see spain and have to think eventually someone will get a tv deal over the line via threat to leave the league that will reward the biggest more and I can see the bottom falling out of the league How can Stoke be up so high in revenue? It's from some of chelsea and City and utd and ours going to them unlike spain There is also the setanta example of a company just plain failing to pay so I can see that bt and sky are very big but the cannot forever keep giving more as eventually the customers stop paying as rates go higher and higher. I expect to see yes global rights to be the growth area But not forever Therefore my prediction is a day where clubs suddenly realise they cannot pay the players contracts after the current deal ends or worse the deal fails and we will see a lot of losses and issues The smart clubs who enter this perm from championship should put the money in bricks and mortar facilities IMO, just shovelling on wages is nuts
