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Is Pellegrini the worst manager to have won the PL?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by astro, Jan 18, 2015.

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Worst manager to have won the PL?

Poll closed Feb 18, 2015.
  1. Alex Ferguson

    8.7%
  2. Kenny Dalglish

    34.8%
  3. Arsène Wenger

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. José Mourinho

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Carlo Ancelotti

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Roberto Mancini

    47.8%
  7. Manuel Pellegrini

    8.7%
  1. InBiscanWeTrust

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    That's the thing.

    City can cope with injuries a lot better than Chelsea. How long have City had to cope without Aguero and now Toure for yet they are still near Chelsea because their squad is a lot stronger being able to replace with quality.

    If Chelsea lose Costa and Fabregas/Matic for the same period of time I think they would struggle a lot more than City.
     
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  2. Diego

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    Has to be Fergie then by your judgement, 1996/97 75 points.
    Not sure i would pick him as worst manager to win the premier league though <ok>
     
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  3. Diego

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    City actually made up points on Chelsea without Aguero and Dzeko <ok>
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Far too sensible a comment for this thread
     
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  5. Tobes

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    Absolute nonsense.

    How many points you win it by is affected by numerous variables, not least the standard of the entire league at that point in time.

    Winning the league by a point could be just as a great an achievement as winning it by 20.
     
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  6. astro

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    So come up with your own parameters for the qualities of a manager, then decide which of the managers in the #poll least satisfy your criteria <ok>
     
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  7. Tobes

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    Only a complete cloth head would compile a set of parameters attempting to decide who in their eyes is the 'worst' Champion.
     
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  8. I did :)
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

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    I was using points as an example to prove the point that you can have a worst winner, not specifically in relation to how you'd measure this.

    winning 1m, 2m and 3m are all great but of the 3 winning the 1m is the worst.

    Winning the league cup, league title and champ league are all great, but the league cup is the worst to win out of the 3
     
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  10. Tobes

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    That analogy doesn't work though, as of course £3m is better than £1m, it's a different prize ffs, not the same.

    Neither does the listing of different competitions as the same applies, as the LC is less prestigious than the League.

    The question related to the PL only.
     
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  11. astro

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    OK so your opinion is that Alex Ferguson, Kenny Dalglish, Arsène Wenger, José Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti, Roberto Mancini, and Manuel Pellegrini are all exactly the same in terms of quality of management.

    Fine <ok>
     
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    No, that their achievement in winning the PL was the same, a winner is a winner, you can't have a 'worst' winner you melt.

    Your question wasn't who's the best / worst manager per se, it was who is the worst winner of the PL, which as I said at the outset is an oxymoron.
     
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    The question is who is the worst manager. The candidates are restricted to only those who have won the Premier League. <ok>
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Again you're taking it too literal. Your point was you can't have a worst winner... The above point's prove you can win things but still have a worst one <ok>
     
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  15. Bodinki

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    If the question is, "Of all the PL winning managers, which is worst?" then it is definitely between the 2 City managers.
    Whoever put SAF is ****ing melt <laugh>
    Carlo and Jose have proven themselves winners at multiple clubs over multiple leagues.
    Dalgleish proved his quality in his first stint at Liverpool, and again at Blackburn
    Pellegrini I must admit I had never heard of him before he came to City so I dont know, but a quick look at his history doesn't show me all that much to get excited about. Knowing little about South American football either, I cannot attest as to whether any of the achievements he made there were worth a damn.

    Mancini was ok in Italy with Inter, then won the league on goal difference with the most expensive squad in PL history, and only on GD against one of the worst Uniteds squads in SAF's tenure.
    Also, as above, he is a terrible man manager and very emotional.
    I went with Mancini.
     
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  16. Lads, lads, save yourselves some time...

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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    as did... i.... simple and logcial. Pelligrini got shafted by real and got the city job. mancini won seira a due to juve imploding and I was shwon by someone he did nothing in euope much. at city we was god awful
     
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  18. astro

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    But remember Mancini also won them the FA Cup, used that to build a winning mentality to get the title the next season. He had to do a lot of "firsts" and shape City from expensive mercenaries to an actual winning club. Pellegrini has just inherited that and tried not to **** things up.

    Aguero, Yaya, Nasri, Silva, Milner, Kolarov... the heart of City's squad is Mancini's
     
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  19. Yeah, but we all know you've got **** taste :p
     
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  20. Bodinki

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    True! I hadn't considered that.
    Pellegrini inherited winners.
    Mancini inherited Mercenaries.

    Still though, would be unfair to judge Pellegrini as he is still in charge and who knows what else he will achieve at the club.....but one season = 1 league title isnt a bad start, if he ****s it up this season though.
     
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