Assessment of Monk

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aswan_dam said:
There you go, doing it again. Undertones of making Monk out to be an incompetent chump. "Monkenomics" being another example. If that's your view, then fine, you're perfectly entitled to it, but the sniping at the manager followed by smileys as if it's all a great joke is giving out mixed messages which rub a lot of people up the wrong way. Maybe you don't recognise it, or just enjoy doing it.

You're a unique character on here Vetch, and I always enjoy what you have to say and the way you write it. You can also be quite intimidating when you're dishing it out with both barrels, but you seem to take offence when some take you to task over your style (some might say agenda).

Am I going to get both barrels??
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Hi aswan,thanks for the "unique character" epithet.
I take it as a compliment,and it makes me feel that I actually achieve something tangible by being just that.

What's the point of everyone agreeing with each other,especially when they all wear the same rose tinted spectacles?

I don't look for conflict,but if anyone decides to take me on,why shouldn't I defend myself?
If by defending myself,or daring to have a contrary opinion,I rub people up the wrong way,well,guess what,I could care less,and they need to get a life,or get over it.
Occasionally,I do write something to wind people up,especially the pompous ones who think they are the bee's knees. These people I deride with consummate pleasure.

My opinions count as much as anyone else's,even if I'm on my own with my beliefs. Luckily,I'm not alone,but maybe I say more often what some others are reluctant to say.

"Monkenomics" was a ribald comment,and the fact that you fail to see that puts you in the same corner with the rose tinted brigade,and that saddens me,since you are better than that. Or at least I thought you were.

I have no particular "agenda",but will defend rigorously my entitlement to air my opinions,as and when.

Now,if you detected any bullets in that response,I sincerely hope you were wearing your flak jacket. <laugh>
 
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LIBERTARIAN said:
What makes it "realistic",I wonder?

The points accrued to date,whilst very welcome, have I feel,created a false impression. The points gained against Utd.were extremely fortunate,and Burnley deserved something on their Liberty appearance.
Realsitically,I think we are in a false position,and I will get a lot of flak from the usual suspects for holding this deeply unpleasant point of view.
But,hey,I'm not one of the posters who have now started attacking Monk and his style of play.
I simply sit back and watch it take place,smug in the knowledge that I knew it was coming.

A defeat at Southampton in the next match will see a further eroding of Monk's status on here.
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Do you think it realistic for us to finish in the top 6 then Vetch?
 
LIBERTARIAN said:
What makes it "realistic",I wonder?

The points accrued to date,whilst very welcome, have I feel,created a false impression. The points gained against Utd.were extremely fortunate,and Burnley deserved something on their Liberty appearance.
Realsitically,I think we are in a false position,and I will get a lot of flak from the usual suspects for holding this deeply unpleasant point of view.
But,hey,I'm not one of the posters who have now started attacking Monk and his style of play.
I simply sit back and watch it take place,smug in the knowledge that I knew it was coming.

A defeat at Southampton in the next match will see a further eroding of Monk's status on here.
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Why should it. After Southampton we would have played Chelsea, WHU and Southampton (away) and picked up 1 point without Bony (sold now obviously), Ki, Montero, Jonjo, Leon (yesterday). I was only expecting 1 point from these three games. It's the games after Southampton we will be targeting as wins etc.
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
Why should it. After Southampton we would have played Chelsea, WHU and Southampton (away) and picked up 1 point without Bony (sold now obviously), Ki, Montero, Jonjo, Leon (yesterday). I was only expecting 1 point from these three games. It's the games after Southampton we will be targeting as wins etc.
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This is what happened to Laudrup
 
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Yankee_Jack said:
without Bony, definitely no.
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We wouldn't finish top 6 with Bony anyway. We are more than half way through the season and have never been outside the top nine and are either 8-9 points better off than this time last season. Yet, you'd think we're in a relegation scrap given some comments on here. Yes we are going through a difficult patch atm, but it was always going to be a difficult period after the Xmas schedule in that we had to play WHU, Chelsea and Southampton on the back of losing Bony, Ki, Jonjo being a prat, Montero and Leon yesterday.
When Ki, Montero and Leon return we will then be back on track. Atm it seems to me that one or two are revelling in the difficulties that Monk is facing atm.
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
We wouldn't finish top 6 with Bony anyway. We are more than half way through the season and have never been outside the top nine and are either 8-9 points better off than this time last season. Yet, you'd think we're in a relegation scrap given some comments on here. Yes we are going through a difficult patch atm, but it was always going to be a difficult period after the Xmas schedule in that we had to play WHU, Chelsea and Southampton on the back of losing Bony, Ki, Jonjo being a prat, Montero and Leon yesterday.
When Ki, Montero and Leon return we will then be back on track. Atm it seems to me that one or two are revelling in the difficulties that Monk is facing atm.
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"Revelling".

He's just been signed by Cardiff,I think? <laugh>
 
Why can't Laudrup be mentioned? :emoticon-0153-broke

Having said that I can't understand the fixation on him here that I've seen since joining. I thought Laudrup was our best Manager ever but I know many of my friends don't agree with me. Hated the way he was sacked too. Not good. But I still find the level of interest in him here curious. I haven't checked but is the Stoke board still awash with comments about Pulis?

It's all a bit weird.
 
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Mrs Miggins said:
Why can't Laudrup be mentioned? :emoticon-0153-broke

Having said that I can't understand the fixation on him here that I've seen since joining. I thought Laudrup was our best Manager ever but I know many of my friends don't agree with me. Hated the way he was sacked too. Not good. But I still find the level of interest in him here curious. I haven't checked but is the Stoke board still awash with comments about Pulis?

It's all a bit weird.
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Laudrup is "history" isn't he?

Laudrup's football "history" makes him more interesting than most,if not ALL, modern player's.
He is also a highly articulate and intelligent person,a successful businessman,and much admired on the world stage.

Pulis cannot be compared to Laudrup on ANY level,so your "Stoke board" comment is quite bewildering.
 
aswan_dam said:
See, that's why I like your posts...you use words like "ribald". I'm off to find the dictionary....<laugh>
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I slip in the odd word like "ribald" to confuse the hell out of the dynamic duo from Penclawdd.
They don't have any dictionaries in Penclawdd now. They were all burnt, along with the witches,on the salt marsh. <laugh>
 
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LIBERTARIAN said:
Laudrup is "history" isn't he?

Laudrup's football "history" makes him more interesting than most,if not ALL, modern player's.
He is also a highly articulate and intelligent person,a successful businessman,and much admired on the world stage.

Pulis cannot be compared to Laudrup on ANY level,so your "Stoke board" comment is quite bewildering.
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Why not? He is a very good manager.
 
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