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A game of Risk...

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by homepark_hobo, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. homepark_hobo

    homepark_hobo Member

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    As you all know Argyle is an amazing club and Ridsdale is one of the reasons we are still here.
    Well, you may also all know how much I like to take the alternative viewpoint to DS so how's this for food for thought??:

    Ridsdale, why is he here? He is here to save our club and restore its reputation. The only way he is going to make any money or restore its reputation is to get more people through the gate at Argyle. The only way he is going to get more people through the gate at Argyle is to make the club more successful than it is now.

    Which brings me on to my point.

    If we all get behind the club now and turn up in our tens of thousands for the new season then Ridsdale can do more to help the club develop. He will make loads of money and this will help us bring in the right players and (hopefully) push up the league. If on the other hand he turns up on day one of the season and there are only 3,000 bums in the crowd then we will have let the club down and we will not get anywhere. It is a one way agenda, He wants the club to have money and fame and we want a decent club - win-win. We have to play a game of Risk and decide if we want to have a club or not. If we give Ridsdale what he wants up front then we will get what we want because there will be a drive or incentive for him to make the club good again, he can sit back and count up the gate receipts and "thank you very much Plymouth I will use this to help your club become great again." Don't you think he would plough it back into the club?

    Or we can follow the DS's of the world and make the club work for our money - This would be a serious error.

    My point is (if you haven't guessed already) that the vast legions of stayaways are actually doing the club greater harm for the long term than the armchair supporters that remain at home and make ridiculous comments on not606.

    Ridsdale doesn't have to win over the Sensibles of this world, they rightly have already stated they will follow the club through thick and thin, through any league or level, like true supporters. That's admirable.
    It is the people like DS and the several thousand other stayaways that make life diffiuclt for the club. The stayaways are going to be the people that force the club out of business.

    It's vital that you remember Ridsdale is here for Argyle. We need to help him get every possible last benefit for Plymouth Argyle. It starts with making the effort to support the players and the club by turning up.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. homepark_hobo

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    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It's important to remember that it is PAFC that we support..........Directors,managers,staff and players are important...........but they are just passing through at that period in Argyles 125 year journey.......they will come and go whatever...........there will be good ones and bad ones.............but PAFC is the constant ingredient in all this and that is who you are cheering on each match.............just need the national anthem and God save the Queen............and three cheers of course..........good grief where's me hankie.
     
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  4. homepark_hobo

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    LOL. I decided to make DS's comments a little more upbeat. I think that is significantly more positive than the negative drivel dished out by the WUM.
     
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  5. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    That's an excellent statement Hobo.

    I don't have a problem with Ridsdale making money if the club goes in the right direction, or even just gets back onto a stable footing. We're all winners then.

    There's been almost a complete turnover of directors, manager & players and if the stayaways don't give it a chance now, then maybe they never will.

    Yes we're in League 2 and yes we'll start with a cobbled together squad of various misfits and under-achievers but that's a damn sight better than we might have feared a couple of months ago.

    As long as we turn a side out against Shrewsbury anything is possible.
     
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  6. greenjock

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    Well said Hobo. I personally can't stand Ridsdale but it's him or extinction now. It's far from ideal not owning our own ground, and this could come back to haunt us in future, but for now we have a ground to play in and a team to represent Argyle, just about, so it's our duty to give them our support ad not listen to window lickers like DS with his remarkable plans for success like boycotting home games? Or spending even more money we don't have!
     
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  7. BrixhamGreen

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    Boycotting is counterproductive.
    We have new backers/board now. If anyone felt like staying away before (not I) they can't use that argument again. Things are different now.
    Turn up and support OUR club...
     
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  8. devonsurfer

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    Baaa Baaa Baaa

    Bunch of blind sheep the lot of you. The amount of lies, deceit and stink of corruption surrounding Guilfoyle, Ridsdale and Heaney makes Todd and Stapleton seem like Gods gift to football clubs, yet still you will follow blindly and obediently like sad little Lemmings hopelessly addicted to some lost notion of being part of some great football club that no longer exists.
     
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  9. homepark_hobo

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    Argyle will rise again like the Phoenix from the flames DS. Now off back under your rock.
     
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  10. devonsurfer

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    Wrong, we do not have new backers or a new board yet. We have anonymous preferred bidders shrouded in lies and smoke, selected by a suspicious administrator who is now subject to a private investigation of his dealings in the administration process. We have continued delays to the production of the money needed, we have rumoured links to previous directors, we have lies admitted by the administrator himself, we have somehow ended up with football mega-crook Ridsdale as 'owner' of the club after buying it for a quid after suspiciously becoming involved after being 'on holiday' hmm yeah right, it wasn't predetermined at all was it??!! We have Ridsdale the subject of a court fraud action which could see him struck off from business. We have staff that haven't been paid since before Christmas.

    You are having a laugh aren't you?
     
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  11. homepark_hobo

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    I was watching Sesame St with the kids last night and DS you remind me of Oscar the Grouch. Popping up out of your bin to spew rubbish at everyone before hiding again.

    I am having a laugh but only at you. LOL.
     
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  12. BrixhamGreen

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    DS - From a dictionary:

    sup·port   /səˈpɔrt, -ˈpoʊrt/
    [suh-pawrt, -pohrt]

    –verb

    to maintain (a person, family, establishment, institution, etc.) by supplying with things necessary to existence; provide for: to support a family.


    The CLUB needs our support -If we don't give that we won't have a club.
    See above....
     
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  13. WestCountrylalala

    WestCountrylalala Active Member Forum Moderator

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    You won't win guys so just hit the ignore button ;)
     
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  14. BYeee

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    I am really, really upset with you ds, after ALL of the support I have tried to give you over the past few months when it was obvious to all that your medication was not working.

    Who was it that offered to take you to the Samaritans - ME and who let me down twice - YOU

    Who offered you a guided meditation to reduce your anxieties and hang ups - ME, who did not respond - YOU

    Who offered you words of support and friendship - ME, who ignored me - YOU

    When everybody on 606 and not606 want to tie you up and place you headfirst into 6 months of used boil dressings, who said NO, NO., NO, ds needs help - not abuse.

    I did not do this for thanks, but in a genuine attempt to help somebody, who is obviously suffering a debilitating mental disorder, but what do I get in return?

    Abuse, that's what, telling me that I live in some horrible place, etc etc, I won't go on, but I just wanted you to know, that I am deeply wounded.

    BUT, being a good hearted chap, I will not bear a grudge, as said I will be down in Plymouth over the weekend and will be more than happy to meet you on Friday evening at say 21:00 - that's 9PM to you civilian type chaps, outside the Samaritan's office in Plymouth.

    Just a request though, after the last time when I could not recognise you, would you please wear your Pink Shell Suit, so identification would be spot on.:afro::afro::afro: oh, and is this your hair do - I hear it is very fashionable in Tranmere>

    All the very best and don't let me down agai
     
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  15. BYeee

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    <sorry> again
     
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    I just want an explanation using facts. Yes folks facts. I know it's boring but facts are essential in this. Exactly how is Ridsdale supposed to work his fingers to the bone to improve things at Argyle for the masses without any money to do it? Fact. The wage structure in this league is based on a set percentage of the gross income from gate receipts etc. There is no provision to chuck in a few million extra by anyone. So given that this is a set down rule, how exactly does staying away enhance the clubs future or opportunities? I understand that we should expect hard work and good management from a Board/Owner. I cannot see how somebody is going to be going kerching kerching at Argyle unless there is success on the field. It therefore seems logical that whoever is in charge will not exactly be creaming off millions if 6 to 8000 people turn up on a Saturday afternoon once a fortnight. So go on DS, put some meat on the bones of your argument just for once and explain in a little detail how your version works and how Ridsdale would make his fortune out of the club at this stage. It is easy to say what you say without having to quantify anything so go on just for the benefit of us mere mortals who cannot see the argument.
     
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  18. BYeee

    BYeee Guest

    Many thanks Joe, I have printed this and will take it with me on Friday night.
    I will post on here to let you know how I get on, if you are browsing ds, please don't let me down again eh!!

    Joe - hope your son continues the fight

    All the very best Joe

    Nick
     
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  19. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Nick your welcome lol, son is doing ok, some days are better than others but he keeps up the fight, at least he is smiling. Thanks nick
     
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  20. notDistantGreen

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    Here's a fact Sensible, there is no money to be made out of football.

    Every single article & analysis you read tells you so. Wages expand to fill the income available.

    Even in the PL, the only exceptions are clubs like Man U, Arsenal & Liverpool, which have the big income and are relatively well run.

    Then there are the basket cases like Man City & Chelsea on the one hand and the rest who do very very well to compete and keep their heads above water at the same time [yes Nicky, like Stoke].

    There was a great article the other day [which I now can't find] about the truly horrendous level of debt in the Championship.

    So this is a blessing if your biggest worry is that God forbid, Ridsdale should make a quid or two. Don't worry, he won't, except by building the club up, taking it up a few divisions and selling it to some sucker. Not the worst thing I think.

    If you'd like to see enough money in the club to ensure a prosperous and successful future, it's a nightmare.
     
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