Just read today the Niko Kranjcar has had a pot shot at the club for over valuing him. He says that the club are asking for at least 12m (considering that we him got for around 5m) and that is scaring off potential buyers. We know that Levy is determined to recoup losses on players not needed- but not in this case- its making a big profit on a squad player. Thoughts?
I thought we paid about 2 for him? With all this talk about modric, I'd be hanging on to niko for as long as poss.
I would agree. Let's see what happens with Modric. If he is insisting on going then we have to accept that he's not the guy we thought he was, and let him go. I just hope thaT Levy screws those slimy, underhand, unprincipled, ****ers for every last penny.
If I were Levy, I'd overvalue the players I'd like to keep (Kranjcar, Bale, Modric etc) for the exact reason to scare off potential buyers. I would imagine we'll accept a Kit-Kat Chunky and a 10 pack of Marlboro lights for Keane or Bentley (and the remaining deadwood), though.
I see that Mr.Avramovich has anchored his yacht in a Croation harbour. Kind of convenient don't you think?
Yeah, saw that. Like I said, IF we are forced to sell, I hope that Levy screws that Russian Gangster slimeball for top, top, dollar.
Krancjar has got a good point. It's an inaccurate evaluation, as he's deemed not even worthy of making the Spurs first XI - so how can a player bought for £2m suddenly become worth £12m by sitting on the bench. This smacks of bitterness from Redknapp and Levy. It's bad enough that Harry has stifled him, but to try and prevent him leaving is just cruel. That is unless they have genuine plans for him to replace Modric. The trouble is, why would you trust a manager who has consistently left you out in the cold?
Question for anyone. When a club lists a player for transfer do they have to submit an official valuation or is it whoever is interested gets told what the club wants? So depending on who asks they get a different valuation.
I think that even if we do hold onto Modders we should keep Niko around. He is a great talent and would be perfect for the europa, F.A, and tin cup competitions. He adds a lot to the team and chips in with vital goals. I can understand his frustration after single-handedly getting us 6 points and then being left on the bench again for the next game. But this season is going to be about serious squad rotation as we must push for those CL spaces.
Because of the Bosman ruling, valuation is very dependent on contract length - we got Kranjcar very cheaply because he was at the end of his contract. A sensible starting valuation might be the value of his remaining contract, then go up from that if the player hs improved or down if he has got worse. I don't know Kranjcar's contract length or wages, but £12m sounds a bit on the high side.
Hmm, it seems as though when we are trying to sell players, the opinion is we should just bite the bullet, and lower our price for a quick sale. Then when it comes to buying players, the opinion is we should stop being cheapskates and pay whatever is necessary to get a quick purchase. Other teams have done the same in the past. Some have had deep pockets behind them, most have watched their Prem history disappear behind them.
It speaks more about the impatience of fans to know what is happening rather than considering the effect on their club.
We've been discussing Niko, Hutton and Defoe on the Sunderland board for a few days, it does seem the valuation of NK is sky high, considering 2 starts last season, and a £2.5million buy in fee. We're all starting to worry about Gyan, on the one hand Gyan's saying all the right things, but straight after his agents out contradicting him. We've been discussing having the 3 mentioned in a swap for Gyan, thus vakuing Gyan at £19million (approx), in our view. How would you guys feel about that, bear in mind Hutts won't play, NK likely won't, and Defoe was **** last season.
Thing is, Niko is well liked abroad, and there are a few clubs on the continent with shiny new billionaire owners. If we can't hold out for top dollar on Niko, we'll be giving the rest of our deadheads away! Your deal actually looks pretty good to me. Gyan is not the "marquee" signing were looking for, but he's decent and proven in the Prem. Plus its two foreigners out and one in, which helps on the 25-man squad front. I'd rather you took Keane than Defoe, though, but you'd probably want some cash then, as well. Probably quite a lot of cash, actually...
I've never wanted to get rid of Niko, and don't think I will anytime soon. I think I'd rather a deal of Hutton + Defoe + £12m for Gyan, if the option was avalable to us. Gyan isn't a world beater, but he is better than our current crop (bar maybe Pav, who is incredibly inconsistant) so I'd like to see him come over to us. Its not down to me, though.
You can keep Keane thank you very much, giving us Keane would actually add to what you'd owe us for Gyan. Hutton, Defoe and £12million for Gyan would be a tempting deal, for all you say he ain't a marquee signing, as such, he's actually one of the best one on one finishers i have seen, you had first hand experience at The Lane last season. Big issue is he was often starved of service, so would resort to wild pot-shots etc, but when the team was playing well, he put in some magnificent performances. He and Welbeck/Sessegnon played some one touch stuff akin to Barca, sadly the ball would find it's way to Henderson and end up going back towards Bardsley. We don't want him to go, but if he must, we want players, as it's not straightforward to spend money this summer, evidently. I think, given the quality on the ball you guys have in the centre, he could be an absolute smash down there, depending on who comes in for Modric, who IMO you're better off letting go (for the right deal), if he's came out and said he wants to. VDV, Bale, Lennon is still a sensational attacking trio, plus whoever you bring in and a handful of very decent other midfielders already there.
I'm unsure we'll need anybody to come in for Modric if we can still keep Kranjcar. Failing that, a Sandro & Hudd partnership would be pretty decent in itself.
It would be ok, but surely you'd lack a bit of pace and creativity. I know Modric ain't massively quick, but due to his style he doesn't need to be, his feet are quick, his brain is quick. Even Kranjcar and VDV are lacking a wee bit of pace, and surely this would lessen the effect of Lennon?
