Glad i came on here to check out the legal view of all the lawyers that write their educated opinions. Phew now I understand
Well, if he asked to 'join in' whilst macdonald was shagging her she was clearly conscious or he'd have been done for rape as well. By the logic that he proved it was consensual we must assume she was conscious the whole way through, otherwise it becomes rape doesn't it? If i've got that wrong then sorry but I assumed if a woman fell unconscious while shagging her you're kinda meant to stop.
On another point, theres a different thread for the trial, this one should probably remain about Bruceys view on it
If you could point out where i've used the word "good" to identify rape then i'd be very grateful. You ****ing imbecile.
Well I highly doubt Macdonald would just let him walk in and join in without even a word would he? Don't know what your basing this 'he just walked in and started' stance on. There was time where Macdonald and Evans were in the same room and to assume no interaction took place between the three of them is ridiculous. As I stated, if she was unconscious when evans joined in she must have been unconscious during having sex with macdonald which, if i'm not mistaken, would count as rape. Of which he was found innocent.
That's why I used the ' 's. The amount of violence used is not just the deciding factor on how the victim is affected in rape. By pepole saying that being dragged down an alley and raped by a stranger is any worse than a husband raping his wife while she lays motionless and not defending herself is plain wrong. Rape is about power and control. By whatever methods are used.
where's power and control when evans shagged her and she can't remember it or chooses not to accept she does
that is it in a nutshell. She knows exactly what happened, and that she gave consent, but then the £ started spinning in her eyes the next day. The police decided she had been raped, not the girl. Anyone in all honesty ever really totally lost their memory for eight hours?
Agreed. And forced, physical rape is obviously worse. I think taking a beating and being pinned down and raped whilst sober would leave worse mental scarring than someone meekly nipping in for a quickie whilst you're paraletic. Not that taking advantage is ok before the PC platoon start tweeting about me, just that I think one is worse than the other.
You're talking absolute ****. Again. You can't seriously think that what you've said is true, can you?
I did last night, **** knows what happened between me falling asleep and waking up. My girlfriend might have raped me.
Why is everybody so bothered about this case? I don't see you all arguing for or against every other rape offence that happens every day.
I think there's a few reason, it's because of the witch hunt, the high profie it has had over the last few days and also that a lot of men are thinking "holy ****, there but for the grace of God go I" cos if you have sex with a girl who is over the drink drive limit you are open to a rape charge.
If that's the defining factor to what is and isn't rape, I'm a serial rapist Our lass likes a drink or two when she's a weekend off work.
