I knew I should have deleted the famine stuff Should've just done it and taken the flak. I did say be civil and I did say it was goading sisu even if he did make a silly Brit conment
Page, I used the term fairytale deliberately to highlight that the common truths forwarded by both sides are just that and don't stand up to close scrutiny. So, why did Ireland increase its food exports during the 'famine'? Who controlled the Irish agricultural markets - the Irish it transpires thereby ending the notion that the English let the Irish starve. Who organised the Irish land clearances? For the most part it was IRISH landowners. Slightly different from the absentee English of the myth hey! Was there any difference between the Irish and the Scottish/Welsh clearances? Essentially not. As for the potatoes then Ireland was well aware that blight had been ravaging European crops for at least 4 years before. Even though newer types of potatoes resistant to blight were already available they appear not to have been adopted in Ireland. Or if you like the English prevented them being imported!
Complaint about stating a fact, and it's deemed as an unacceptable comment Very apt given the subject matter of the thread and today's events Je suis charlie
in fairness I know you didnt tell a joke but you brought up the spuds and then said it was lighthearted. but its well and good saying it on here , if you were in a pub having the debate on here with all of us would you have said what you did to sisu's face or in my earshot or would you have thought better of it ?
Tobes, you are better than that. Calling some reveared ancient icon a name (which by todays standards is true but at the time of his life normal ) is not equivalent to taking the piss out of thousands of deaths. You may be on a hit list for the former though
Well... Someone did so.... For balance you could gave a go at Jesus too... I've no idea what you based it on so I'll plead ignorance of said facts and go with I didn't like it either when I read it so went with that.
Or.... Did I deleted Astros comment on the other thread? Hmmmm I am forgetful Tobes where did you say this outrageous thing so I can go delete it?
Dave, Britain controlled Ireland's import/exports because at the time Ireland was under British rule and was annexed.
Would sisu tell me I didn't know my own history and taunt me about colonialism in an alehouse over a pint? Works both ways mate. I said straight away I meant nothing by it when mito brought it up. I love Ireland and guess where my heritage is ffs?
Page, there is some very good stuff published by Trinity College on the subject. The economic control of the Irish agricultural markets was in the hands of Irish merchants. As far as the evidence that they produced there was no political control from London.
Astro also said the same thing in the thread started by Hash to be fair, it isnt a comment that bothers me really, but it may do others
I always love hearing this, along with other favourites like "I love blacks, and some of them are even my friends."
Muhammad married a 9 year old as part of his polygamist harem, a fact according to their scripture. Fatwa on its way
Well done you, but I never mentioned anything about being "distant"? But its ok bcos I believe it as much as those who made the comments I quoted.
Code for: oh **** I've made. **** of myself with an unfunny joke up that infers racism You've patently got the intelligence of that volley ball in your avatar, ****ing spanner
