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Off Topic Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

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  1. Milnermino Lamborini

    Milnermino Lamborini Well-Known Member

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    MITO just look for the images take your pic
    Mandera attacks
    Mpeketoni attacks
    Westgate mall attack

    In the 1st two examples people were told to lie down and shot at blank range. The images are just shocking. I don't believe that there will be no blood.
     
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  2. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Talk of the devil (no pun intended) old Salman himself has just popped up again;

    "Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a real threat to our freedoms.
    "This religious totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and we see the tragic consequences in Paris today.
    "I stand with Charlie Hebdo, as we all must, to defend the art of satire, which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny, dishonesty and stupidity.
    "'Respect for religion' has become a code phrase meaning 'fear of religion.' Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire, and, yes, our fearless disrespect."
     
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  3. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Did you have to? The Great Irish Conspiracy Story. Pity they did it mostly to themselves but don't let truth stand in the way of a good story!!!!
     
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  4. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Sorry mate you don't understand the other aspects of what you are trying to understand, just searching for something to back your point will hardly turn up results.

    The pressure inside the head from a round of the velocity of an assault rifle will literally blow the skull apart, it is not about the size of the bullet Tobes. The velocity causes the damage, and then there is the type of round used. Either crossed point or hollow point can do even more damage as one fragments and the other literally explodes any cavity it impacts
     
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  5. BBFs Unpopular View

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    True mate, I've seen many an AK head hit over the years, heads can literally explode when hit with a round from an AK

    it's called explosive decompression I think..
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no of course, just not necessarily that this particular french video has to have massive pools of blood right then.
     
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  7. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Right then let's stop calling this a football forum. You've all converted yourselves into ballistics experts overnight.

    Well here's some news for you. None of you are experts on the AK47 and its amunition and you know even less about it than you do about football!
     
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  8. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    That piece was about the AK47 and the damage it's rounds can cause, it clealy contradicts what you've just posted, and unless you're a ballistics expert you've got nowhere to go here.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    however.... nobody knows what kind of bullets they were bar ebing ak bullets... so lets all stop assuming.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    please lets not go down the route of using something that we all know is a serious point of angr to bait sis cos you know he's irish. this stuff is starting to become offensive generally. god knows what hash would say to you on that one just as an example.
     
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  11. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I know exactly what hash would say and he knows how I would respond!

    Now it's Sisu who started the Anglo/rish argument when he told Tobes he didn't know his history. So if you want tell him to back off then feel free to do so.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    Not going to argue with the principle of what you're saying there, and it was a light hearted comment from me.

    However, I don't see why that should be sacrosanct whilst Sisu is Ok to take a swipe at Britain and then decide that I don't know about my country's 'real' history.

    Anyway, as you were.

    Sisu you're a ****ing crank mate <laugh>
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    you are right of course.... lets all be civil about it.
     
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  14. Tobes

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    Back to the actual events, as opposed to some wacko conspiracy version.

    What a tragedy, 12 people shot because of a satirical cartoon, that dared to cross into the World of Islam.

    The German protests of earlier in the week are now bound to gather similar support across other parts of Western Europe I reckon.

    It's time we stood up and told these ****ers that we're not going to bow down to their archaic beliefs and fear to tread on anything that relates to their religion in case they decide to take offence. **** 'em. If you're going to live in the West, live by the West's rules, and in the West satire and challenge is part of our culture, if you can't stomach it, **** off.
     
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    Well it's no secret I am not a ballistics expert. Do I believe no one died, I can't say either way. I sure am suspicious though and am amazed at the apparent bad timing of terrorists who always seem to strike just when some anti terrorism laws are meeting opposition.

    Even after 9\11 the Patriot act was meeting stiff opposition, then strangely, the terrorists came to the rescue again, sending Anthrax to government officials including patrot act opposing senators.. the act was singed post haste thereafter, after only allowing for the reading of it overnight and signed first thing in the AM, this was a seriously long document, no way anyone read it before singing it either.

    Coincidences aplenty.

    So whilst I get alots of humour about wearing tin foil hats, I just do not believe in these coincidences and some very intelligent non crazy people like Noam Chonsky or John Pillager for example, or Seymour Hersh and others have documentated the history of this type of thing. These are people you will not see on BBC or Sky news or CNN.

    I know we all like to think everyone goes by our moral code, but that couldn't be further from reality, we are cattle to the 0.01% nothing more, who would think anything of killing a few cattle to achieve one's aims? They already think there is 6.5 billion too many of us already, that's a fact. Little clues, like Prince Philip saying he'd like to come back as a virus and wipe out most of us, goes to show the contempt these people regard us with.
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think it is more than just one cartoon. they've been poking at it for a long time and jsut this morning apparently posted some satire about the birthday of the head man of isis/isil whatever you like place.

    basically there's no need to insult a whole people based on knowing its blasphemous to post pictures of their prophet. thats actually breaching thier rights too.

    In the end... yes living in the west should = you are not nuts but what we are seeing is lot sof disaffected lads running off to play soldier in syria etc.

    in the end someone has to wake up and say ok. ok... we've ****ed this. syria was us taking out a russian ally who was not on our side and we've cocked it.. worse than even egypt. so.... no stomach to roll tanks and fix it... hmmm... same as no stomach to tell pakistan its act is total ****e and to get those taliban or surrender while we roll over.... nah not doing that result is Afghanistan will be taliban within a few years if not less and all the soliders dead or maimed are so for nothing.... or same in iraq. you never should have done it at all but once you did you cocked it right up and have created this sunni army that you now can't be arsed rolling over.

    In my view the sooner you burn up all that oil and nobody cares about the whole region the better. the thing is they'll turn on themselves is a massive uncontrolled war. its inevitably going to happen.

    the next thing will be kurd getting waepaons and turning away from border with syria and attacking turkey in their own war... oops.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    wouldn't it be a lot lot simpler to arrange a low police presence in the area then send two french special forces in and actually kill the whole lot in a conspiracy than fake killing.

    why in this theory does an actor have to roll about on the ground and pretend to get shot when in fact such a nefarious act would simply be a lot simpler if you go kill the ten journalists and two police for real.......
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    would any of you go to the Place de la Republique with several hunderd or thousand french peopel who are assembling in remembrance.

    would you not think if there are 3 amred guys on the lamb and are thinking they'll be caught that this is a perfect mad ending for them.
     
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  19. Germlands Nozzer

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    Quite aside from the fact that you would then have to hide the "victims" with new identities and make sure they are never identified. Sounds like a lot of effort just to get a law passed.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i guess i'm more of a villian than i thought i guess.
     
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