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Off Topic Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

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  1. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Does it?

    You've decided it does, as you're eager to peddle your latest conspiracy theory.

    He fired more than one shot you bell end, and there doesn't need to be an explosion of brain and claret as the bullet has passed straight through from point blank range
     
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    Seriously, am I the only one that can see this cop was not executed in this video?
     
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    Sorry but you cannot see anything from that vid, are you saying this is a fake attack?
     
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    So you're now an expert marksman/executioner are you? In that case you will be able to prove beyond doubt that your expertise is such that you can categorically prove the execution to be fake. Until such times as you can do that your rantings remain as usual - conspiracy claptrap.
     
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    The rifle was not pointing at him when the round exited the barrel and struck the pavement, perfect example of what you wish to believe overriding what you can actually see with your eyes.
     
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    I have some experience with firearms and the lack of blood or brains in that vid doesn't mean a thing, I don't see how from that footage anything can be seen as clear.
     
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    <laugh>

    Posted without a hint of irony

    Classic <applause>
     
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    Am I missing something here? I can't the barrell of the weapon and the officer involved in the same shot.

    The footage is really shakey and unclear.
     
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    Anyways, I've said all I wanna say on this. Anyone that wants to look at everything as individual issues will never see anything, when you see countries looking to pass through *unconstitutional oppressive laws to quell any dissent) and then terror attacks occur in a timely fashion, you tend to look at those events differently and examine them.

    I seen dodgy witness with previous links to war propaganda and a fake execution, patently obvious fake.

    The Ottawa attack and the Sydney siege, also timely "attacks", Canada pushed through a law it was mulling overnight after the ottawa attack, what a coincidence. All 5 eyes member states coincidentally of course, the corner stones of NATO.
     
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    FYI Tobes, go research the real history of your country and it's actions in the middle east, I think you'd be surprised how different it is from what you were taught at School. Blaming religion..? you seem to be of that sort, when really it's ben your ****ing empire that is mainly why the middle east is as it as just as South America is a pile of **** thanks to the US and Africa a pile of **** thanks to mainly UK and France and currently Africom(US)

    Everyone thinks oh yeah, backwards, stonage mentality, well, when you keep states and continents in the dark ages by bombing killing regime changing and enslaving for a certury or more, then yes, how else are they meant to get out of the dark ages if they are kept there by Anlgo Christian empires

    FYI Tobes, an AK round at that range will take your head off
     
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    Ok I've seen the shot now.
     
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    What do you reckon? The puff of dust from the round actually appears before he even points the gun at the cop. He fires and lowers in a quick motion that is very apparent.
     
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    I hardly think that you of all people are in a position to pass any rational unbiased opinion on British history! It's stupid ****s like you passing judgement on historical events using so called 'modern' philosophy and feelings that gives idiots like those in Paris today a sense of righteousness.
     
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    You lot have never got over them spuds have you ffs.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    sisu.... seriously... its an assault rifle. you can't tell much of anything from that but you want to believe your theory its all a conspiracy.

    ak47 are notorious if on full auto. even a squeeze off and they could have fired 3/4 bullets for all we know.

    you've leapt to the conclusion you want to.
     
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    As a Kenyan I have seen first hand the ugly work of people hell bent on killing.

    What I can tell you is I have seen peoples heads shot at close range with AKs and trust me it is bloody and all blown up.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    big calibre slug/slugs alright.... however it aint django unchained lads. its not going to explode all over the place instantly either so all you can see in that vid is a guy going down and two guys shooting around. I'd resist the insistence that's its all a giant conspiracy cos honestly.... if it were you'd be dmaned sure it'd look like the movies you guys seem to want it to.
     
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    The 7.62x39mm M43 projectile does not generally fragment when striking an opponent and has an unusual tendency to remain intact even after making contact with bone. The 7.62x39mm round produces significant wounding in cases where the bullet tumbles (yaws) in tissue,[44] but produces relatively minor wounds in cases where the bullet exits before beginning to yaw.[45][46][47] In the absence of yaw, the M43 round can pencil through tissue with relatively little injury.[45][48]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47

    So a head shot from point blank into a skull would go straight through

    Sorry Sisu x
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    at that range frankly.... tumbling and fragmenting from an assault rifle bullet isn't really the thing. you'd expect the air sucked through to do the damage more than the bullet the exit hole should still be massive comared to entry.... tumbling is large calibre slower projectiles meant to tear people up.... like police hand guns
     
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    The pressure from the round going in literally blows the skull apart.

    But forget the gore aspect, the guy clearly fired the round when the rifle was not pointing at the cop, the sound comes a bit later, the sound of the shot comes as he moves the rifle towards the "cop" probably an agent and not a cop.

    it's pretty irrifutable that the puff of dust on the pavement from the round striking it appears before the rifle is lowered.
     
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