Well, This proves my point more than it does yours. There's very few suitable managers out there. Guardiola - He's at Bayern!! Not exactly going to be an easy acquisition. Mourinho - Most Arsenal fans hate him..and he's working for a rival. Again massively unlikely. Klopp - At a BIG club in Dortmund. Recently committed to them further. I would like him at Arsenal though! Van Gaal - At United - just as unlikely as Mourinho. Tends to spend ALOT of money. Conte - Doing a good job at Juve - unlikely he will leave. Never worked outside Italy. Pellegrini - Again another manager working for a rival club. Why would he come? and ..do we really want him? (I DONT) Garcia - Who? Ancelotti - Always done a Good job. Currently working for the Worlds biggest Club. Emery - In a 10 year managerial career he has won only 1 trophy. Not proven anything - Huge risk. Simeone - Looks a good prospect. His team are kinda boring to watch but could be a good option. Hiddink - Contracted till 2016 Good manager - never stays in one job for long though. Low - Im assuming you mean Loewe? ..Yeah I would take him at Arsenal. Seems a quality manager. Bielsa - Nothing about his career shows me he is capable of being an improvement on Wenger. So from that list .. I would say Simeone, Klopp and Loewe are our only realistic options.
Sorry I thought you were answering Old Faithful's question about 1.Availability, 2. Proven EPL experience, and 3.CL experience. And I don't think it's being a pussy club to say we won't get Guardiola, a man in demand from the richest, biggest clubs in the world, and currently at arguably the top team in Europe (or one of the top 2), where he is at the start of building his team - same with Ancelotti. I can imagine them just deciding to throw in the towel on their projects at Bayern/Real before they've gotten going. Same with LvG, while any club could attract him, I can't see him leaving a club he's just joined - at least not without a lot of money offered to any of the above, or Simeone. Not impossible, but very, very unlikely regardless of who the club is - be they Arsenal, PSG or Juve. More likely is to poach a manager whose been at the club for a fair while like Klopp (even when he was doing well), or an up and coming manager looking for the next step, rather than a manager whose just started a role.
Nothing abut Bielsa's career would suggest he is an improvement on Wenger? Wenger - one FA cup in last 10 years. Bielsa - one FA cup runner-up and one Europa cup runner-up in last 3 years with a poor Bilbao team and currently top of Ligue 1 with Marseille after taking over in the Summer
Bielsa might not win us the league, but at least under his management our team would be ****ing fun to watch again. I love watching his teams play, because they play with an intense energy and verve which gets you off your seat. Under Wenger, we are a tedious team to watch.
“We were considering him (Ruud van Nistelrooy) and Francis Jeffers and, in the end, we went for Jeffers.”
To be fair, Jeffers was on a par with Michael Owen at the same age and they were both tipped to be big stars. Easy to mock in hindsight.
No he wasn't. Owen was scoring 18 league goals a season aged 20. Jeffers scored 6 goals a season aged 20 when we bought him.
You have to put that into some context though, Owen was at Liverpool who were flying at the time, Everton were dangling between mid table and relegation most of the time and along with Kevin Campbell, Jeffers scored the goals that saved Everton from the drop. At the time he was considered to be a similar player to Micheal Owen and their paths were predicted to pan out along the same lines, Like I said, fine to mock in hindsight, but Wenger was justified in spending decent money on him at the time.
The 3 attributes are what I would look for and I don't ever recall saying we need an 'elite' replacement, so not sure what story I have changed. Perhaps this is more your wishful thinking so you can create an argument that doesn't exist? p.s your list is a joke as it fails on the availability criteria with most of them.
Apologies, it was TheBear who said only an 'elite' manager would be an upgrade on Wenger, not you. However, my list wasn't designed to stick to some criteria that you'd made up. It was simply a list of managers who spring to mind in 5 seconds who are better than Wenger. And just to be clear... unless you're high up in a football club and employ these managers, you've got no idea who's available or not. I'm not really arguing with anyone. I'm just pointing out there are plenty of managers out there better than Wenger.
And I was just pointing out that's not the case. Most of the Top mangers are either at rival clubs or tied into long contracts. It's easy to claim a manger will be a success but the record of mangers in the EPL just proves otherwise.
My list would look like this... 1.Klopp 2. Loewe 3. Hiddink 4. Guardiola - even though I think it's incredibly unlikely. I have my doubts about Biesla, Conte, Martinez and DeBoer.
But you don't even know where Conte manages or who Garcia is so your managerial opinions are a bit moot.
