Where does it say ALL the people arrested were Celtic fans? Your Scotsman article is a rehash of the NSWPF article except the Scotsman have added the words "Celtic fans". The original statement released by NSWPF never mentioned which club the fans were supporting. Why not? Because the Scotsman made it up, like you did with the Lennon article (we are still waiting to see the evidence to back up your lies incidentally) As for FARE grassing up Celtic in Australia, you are much more stupid than I suspected at first.
my mate is a season ticket holder at the Mariners and is an avid Arab. So i would believe him as he hates us both equally. I spoke to him yesterday and he did say some of our fans were nicked outside the ground for D&D. But that the match as a whole went well and that most of the fans mixed well. Still the piece in the scotsman is lazy journalism at best. it is like someone pointed out earlier almost the same story as the NSWPF put out but with the words "Celtic Fans" added.
I take it the Scotsman were also able to doctor those photographs to make it look like Celtic fans had been scooped and then passed them on to rival papers? Remember you said Would it not be fair to suggest that some (if not all) the fans misbehaving were Central Coast Mariners fans? So you are basing your logic based on the fact that the game was in Austrailia but neglecting the fact that there are photographs of Celtic fans being carried off the pitch. Are we now to believe the journalist Ahmer Khokar was telling lies? Along with Scotzine, who's owner is a self confessed Celtic fan. http://www.scotzine.com/2011/07/late-goal-sinks-celtic-in-oz-friendly-as-fans-arrested/ However the spectacle for the Sydney crowd was ruined by some elements of the Celtic support, revelling in watching their side playing Down Under, as pitch invasions and drunkenness reigned supreme. As for FARE, can you tell me how they could possibly grass up Celtic, considered they are called Football Against Racism in Europe.
Well I actually have a friend who is a season ticket holder at the Mariners and he said that the Celtic fans ruined the game for him with their drunken loutish behaviour. He was able to confirm that Celtic fans were drunk in and outside the stadium. Can you tell us why your friend, an Arab hates us both?
^^Why didn't you mention this in one of your other numerous threads about this, then? ..and why wouldn't you think that a Dundee United fan would hate Rangers and Celtic equally? You can't tell the difference between reality and your wee fantasies anymore. I smell Barry White - so much so, it almost drowns out your bitterness.
Which photos? Ah the photo of two guys in a Celtic shirts? What about the other 9 arrests, where are the photos of these "Celtic" fans? I did say that some of the 11 fans arrested may have been Mariners fans and as we only have a photo of two fans then you have not shown that all 11 were Celtic fans have you? Which part of this are you having dificulty understanding? As for a Journalist "lying" or being economical with the truth, well call me old fashioned but I tend to treat these reports (which as I have pointed out are lifted directly from the New South Wales Police Force's own report) as unreliable, especially when the evidence is in front of my own eyes. The Scotsman article is a cut and paste job with the words "Celtic fans" added. Was the editor of Scotzine at the match? Did he witness the events? Or is he merely reporting what the Scotsman says? Was Ahmer Khokar at the match and if so why did he lift directly from the NSWPF own report? Surely if he was in attandence he is being paid good money for nothing? Finally, I can't believe I have to explain this to you but I never said FARE would/could report Celtic, it was a tongue in cheek reference to the behaviour of the Gers fans who have recently been banned from Ibrox for sectarian singing. Unless you are suggesting (or accusing me again) that I have said something I did not, you do have previous for that. Here are the two reports, notice the uncanny similarity but the Scotsman article specifically mentions "Celtic Fans", why did the NSWPF not say that? Scotsman article NINE male and two female Celtic fans were arrested in Sydney yesterday for attempting to invade the pitch during the Glasgow side's fixture with the Central Coast Mariners. New South Wales Police confirmed that 11 Celtic fans among the 19,482 crowd were arrested after jumping the fence and trying to run on to the pitch during the match at ANZ Stadium, where The Mariners beat Celtic, 1-0. One male Celtic supporter was charged with assaulting police, while another man was charged with assault. The match was the opening game of the club's three-match pre-season tour of Australia. Acting Superintendent Mick Rochester, commander of the group of officers policing the Celtic match, said those arrested would face fines in the region of £370 and could be banned from the stadium for life. "The message is a simple one â antisocial and criminal behaviour will not be tolerated under any circumstances," he said. "If you can't or won't heed the message, don't attend these events. A sporting event is not an excuse to break the law. "If your team isn't performing well, or you disagree with a decision by the referee, you can't react by getting intoxicated, damaging property, assaulting others or making an idiot of yourself. "Be warned. Police and event security staff will continue to act swiftly at sporting and other events to ensure any opportunities to disrupt the enjoyment of others are minimised." In addition, 27 people were ejected for being intoxicated, while 47 people were refused entry to the stadium because of drunkenness. Five people were issued with infringement notices for failing to leave when asked, with one of those subsequently arrested. "New South Wales Police are very disappointed with the way that a minority of Celtic fans behaved tonight," a spokeswoman said. "Fans who assaulted police and other fans will be prosecuted through the courts." New South Wales Police statement âNine men and two women were arrested after jumping the fence in an attempt to invade the pitch,â A/Supt Rochester said. âThey each face hefty fines and being banned from attending future events at the stadium. The majority of fans were at the ground to see a game of football â not to have the match spoiled by idiots.â In addition, 27 people were ejected from the stadium for being intoxicated, while 47 people were refused entry because of drunkenness. Five people were issued infringement notices for fail to quit with one of those subsequently arrested. One man was charged with assaulting police while another man was charged with assault. âIt is disappointing that drunken louts are under the impression they can attend these events and spoil everyone elseâs night,â A/Supt Rochester said. âThe message is a simple one â anti-social and criminal behaviour will not be tolerated under any circumstances. If you canât or wonât heed the message, donât attend these events. âA sporting event is not an excuse to break the law. If your team isnât performing well, or you disagree with a decision by the referee, you canât react by getting intoxicated, damaging property, assaulting others or making an idiot of yourself. âBe warned â police and event security staff will continue to act swiftly at sporting and other events to ensure any opportunities to disrupt the enjoyment of others are minimised. âAny offenders can expect to be arrested and face the consequences,â A/Supt Rochester said. In case you miss my point, the Scotsman article is a blatant lie and has shown to be by the Police statement upon which it is based.
"Which photos? Ah the photo of two guys in a Celtic shirts? What about the other 9 arrests, where are the photos of these "Celtic" fans? I did say that some of the 11 fans arrested may have been Mariners fans and as we only have a photo of two fans then you have not shown that all 11 were Celtic fans have you? Which part of this are you having dificulty understanding?" At least I'm getting somewhere with you. It's was 0 Celtic fans. Then 2. When evidence is thrown your way, you dismiss it. In the record yesterday they had another picture of a guy grinning on the ground, again a Celtic fan. "As for a Journalist "lying" or being economical with the truth, well call me old fashioned but I tend to treat these reports (which as I have pointed out are lifted directly from the New South Wales Police Force's own report) as unreliable, especially when the evidence is in front of my own eyes. The Scotsman article is a cut and paste job with the words "Celtic fans" added. Was the editor of Scotzine at the match? Did he witness the events? Or is he merely reporting what the Scotsman says? Was Ahmer Khokar at the match and if so why did he lift directly from the NSWPF own report? Surely if he was in attandence he is being paid good money for nothing?" Again you are dismissing 2 reports and a number of photographs. How do you know the reporters weren't there? I know the record has staff out there in Oz with the Celtic team. You would no doubt question the validity of their source had they commented on the incident. Wouldn't you? "Finally, I can't believe I have to explain this to you but I never said FARE would/could report Celtic, it was a tongue in cheek reference to the behaviour of the Gers fans who have recently been banned from Ibrox for sectarian singing. Unless you are suggesting (or accusing me again) that I have said something I did not, you do have previous for that." You tried to be a smart arse, suggesting FARE reported you. Not realising what their name actually stood for. Massive fail. "Here are the two reports, notice the uncanny similarity but the Scotsman article specifically mentions "Celtic Fans", why did the NSWPF not say that?" Maybe like you said it was all the Mariners fans. Another fail.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. I was right again, another ****ing moron who simply posts "Fail" when he has no answers.
Wow, your "taking the piss" font looks exactly the same as your "Bitter Bassa" font. Tends to print slightly less ****e, right enough.
I asked you questions I see no answers. 2 pretty big fails. You banging on that trouble was Mariner fans. Proved wrong Trying to crack a joke about FARE, but forgot what Fare stood for and where Celtic are playing at the minute. Like I said, the record have reporters out there. If they mentioned incidents at the game, would you believe their word for it?
Firstly, where did I say that FARE reported Celtic? Secondly show me ANY other newspaper report apart from the Scotsman where is SPECIFICALLY says that 11 Celtic fans were arrested. You have "proved" nothing except that you will blithely lie your way through one sided arguments where your arguments have been ripped apart. Why don't you go back to VB, or FF will your LIES will be accepted as fact?
Originally Posted by DevAdvocate And I want to know if it was FARE who grassed us up. FARE cannot grass up a team playing in Australia. Simples. Secondly show me ANY other newspaper report apart from the Scotsman where is SPECIFICALLY says that 11 Celtic fans were arrested. I give you a link, you ask for another. Can you provide with ONE link that talks about Mariners fans being one of the 11 arrested. I'll wait.
